Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:39)tobyall those questions have already been answered,you are mixing the reason of the topic,I have explain that to you and or others,if Christ did not exist in heaven then why God as to prepare a body for him to take wen he be living on earth ??can a spirit in a spirit body being seen by men ?NO,so to live and…[Read more]

To all, I have some questions.Jesus was a Spirit in Heaven before coming to earth.Jesus had a Body Prepared For Him when he came as man.Question: if he had a body that was 'Spiritual' – as has been said in this forum – why did he have to have another body prepared for him?The premise is this, as their point would suggest:1) Jesus in Heaven was in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2012,11:15)Quote (toby @ Feb. 02 2012,17:31)Even Mikeboll has conceded that Spirits do not have bodies, and that Jesus is currently a Spirit Being.Is that a lie you're telling about me, Toby?  People can receive tiles here for that.Toby, will God leave us naked in heaven?  Or will He give us a spiritual tent to r…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 03 2012,11:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2012,08:16)Quote (toby @ Feb. 02 2012,17:31)SeekingTruth, are you saying that Jesus is in his flesh and bone body in Heaven?Wm?Toby/Mike,I did not say it, Jesus said it. Show me justification for an undeclared “change” at the ascension, and I'll reconsider my position, otherwise…[Read more]

To all,The circle has closed: In the beginning, Angels Spirits were able to manifest temporary bodies and interact with mankind which led to the Nephilims.This was an abomination and thereafter God banned Angels from manifesting temporary bodies except when he permitted them on a direct assignment.It is an interesting point in fact that the Angels…[Read more]

SeekingTruth, are you saying that Jesus is in his flesh and bone body in Heaven?Even Mikeboll has conceded that Spirits do not have bodies, and that Jesus is currently a Spirit Being.  He has not come again yet.When he does come again he will regain his recognised visible, material and Spiritual flesh and bone body and his invisible, immaterial…[Read more]

Hi Terrarica.The spiritual body was not first – the natural body was first and afterwards the spiritual body.  This is exactly what Scriptures says and everything else linked to it exactly as apostle Paul outline to the Corinthians and subsequently to all future mankind from that time.This aspect is related to the Flesh in the physical world…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,09:59)tobywhy do you made this free comment to me? ;Scriptures clearly says (Hey Terraricca!)  'The Spiritual did not come first.  The natural, then the Spiritual'this is in scriptures no???PierreHi Terraricca.The post was to Mikeboll.  You asked in your previous post why I don't post scriptures.  I was showing you…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.You cannot post to me saying what I believe You can do a principle but in this case you are wrong.Direct Scriptural words that hold no possibility of ambiguity: “The Spirit was not First.”The reason for this is because the verse, indeed the whole paragraph and chapter are about Mankind. Mankind being raised from the dead and attaining…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,08:57)Quote (toby @ Feb. 01 2012,15:31)If the Spirit Body (as others say) has a spirit in it (In fact, by their definition this should say spiritS (Plural), seeing that they say the Spirit of Jesus is 'Love' and 'Compassion' and … many other things (Perhaps 'Legions' of spirits!!)) then does/do that/those spirits…[Read more]

Hi Journey.  Thanks for your post – you can certainly express your view really well.  I think though there are some fundamental flaws that are best discussed with others.  For instance, 'Manner from Heaven' is not 'Angel Food'.  Angels do not eat food in Heaven and only under explicit conditions while on earth (Only ever one recorded eve…[Read more]

Hi SeekingTruth.Whether or not you are in agreement with me – can you see the ill-Logic in other's theories?  If the Spirit Body (as others say) has a spirit in it (In fact, by their definition this should say spiritS (Plural), seeing that they say the Spirit of Jesus is 'Love' and 'Compassion' and … many other things (Perhaps 'Legions' of…[Read more]

Seeking, I meant to also add, 'nice post' – what you are saying is not a million miles from what I also am saying and I mean All parts of what you said.

Sorry SeekingTruth, I was addressing Mikeboll but including what he wrote to you, I should have quoted properly, my mistake.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2012,09:53)Okay, so Jesus was raised from the dead as a HUMAN BEING again, with the same body in which he died, right?You say his body had been changed from “natural” to “spiritual”.  What does that mean?  What would be the difference between Jesus' raised flesh and bone body and my flesh and bone body?Mikeboll.Jesus w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2012,10:36)tobyeither you play or test people knowledge ,or you have no knowledge or very little ,witch one is it ,???our understanding is equal to the knowledge we have put in our hearts and our truthful way to deal with that knowledge,the out come would be always the truth of Gods willPierreThank you for your insight,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2012,09:50)Hi Toby,I read nothing in the way of an answer to this point:Do you agree that since Jesus was FIRST a spiritual being, then he is an exception to the rule in Paul's 1 Cor 15 teaching?Hi Mikeboll.  Sorry I missed this question.No, definitely not.   When Jesus came to be with mankind, what was the purpose of t…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll, while I don't agree with everything Gene says in regard to his views on certain aspects of Scriptural matter, I fully agree with him on the last post.

Hi Mikeboll.You said earlier that Jesus was raised from the dead in exactly the same flesh and bone body he was buried in.  You also asked me if Lazarus was raised up in the exact same body he was buried in.  I answered you in a previous post that Lazarus was raised up in the exactly same body he was buried in.  Additionally to that, he was im…[Read more]

Hi SeekingTruth and Mikeboll.Mikeboll said:Quote 'The spirit inside has nothing to do with whether the being's body is natural or spiritual.'Can you see this getting very recursive?  If the Body of the Spirit contains a Spirit then does the Spirit inside the body of the Spirit have a body?If 'yes' then is it a Spiritual Body (Mikeboll, your…[Read more]