Hi Mikeboll.Your inability to make any kind of response to what a Spirit is made of underlines exactly the point that you have no idea what your ideas are based on.Scriptures says that God breathed the Spirit into the Body of the man and he became a living Soul.There is not a single reference anywhere in Scriptures that says that the Spirit is a…[Read more]

Mikeboll,You asked which Scripture says that the Spirit is bodiless when it leaves the body of flesh.When you take off your coat, are you still in a coat?When you leave you your automobile, are you still in an automobile?When you leave you Tent, are you still in a Tent?Does Scriptures not say that the Spirit is naked but will be put into a…[Read more]

Mikeboll,When asked what the composition of Spirit is you answered: Spirit.This is an answer that displays lack of credibility of a responsible person.Additional to that, the Scripture you refer to does not describe the body and composition of Spirit.  It defines the body and composition of the resurrected body of He who was raised from the dead…[Read more]

Mikeboll, you said,Quote Toby, picture a single drop of water.  Its body (outer perimeter) is made of the same substance as the rest of it.  Now picture that drop of water existing inside of a flesh body, weighed down by gravity and other forces.Mikeboll, the 'Outer Perimeter' of a substance is not it's 'Body', It is it's 'Skin'.Also, if the &…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 07 2012,10:09)Quote (toby @ Mar. 06 2012,14:03)I take it then that if you were asked what the body of a Human Being is made of, you would say, 'Human'.Ha ha!  Good one!    Quote (toby @ Mar. 06 2012,14:03)Is there a Spirit inside the body of the Spirit?Yes.We have our own spirits, which are animated by God's Spirit.  S…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll. I'm sorry you find what I write such a chore to read.  Are you like this with everyone? (No answer required – it was a rhetorical question).I will try to be shorter from now on:You say that the body of a Spirit is made of 'Spirit'.Is this not a little bit recursive? (No need to answer unless you really need to!!)I take it then that…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll. Further Points: Quote You concur that I was right?  It was not that the angel manifested two different bodies, but that God at first opened the donkey's eyes, and later Balaam's, right? No one ever argued about Angels having more than one body In the Physical World of which Balaam and the donkey were in.The discussion is, (By your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,00:30)So Toby,You concur that I was right?  It was not that the angel manifested two different bodies, but that God at first opened the donkey's eyes, and later Balaam's, right?Add that to the case of Elisha asking God to open the eyes of his assistant to see the chariots of fire.I haven't EVER read about an angel…[Read more]

Mikeboll,You said,Quote There are hummingbirds all around us here in Arizona, yet I've never bumped into one of them either.Nor have I ever bumped into a whale, a shark, or an elephant.This is what I consider a “crazy question”.Mikeboll, Hummingbirds, Whales, Sharks and Elephants, are not Spirits.Quote Toby, if we are to do this question by…[Read more]

Hi All,Despite what has been said concerning misconceptions, it appears there is still a major misunderstanding concerning the phrase 'Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God'.In fact, not only is this 'Off Topic' in this thread (Why is it being discussed here when someone could start a thread on it: hint hint!) but the saying/verse has…[Read more]

Mikeboll,You said:Quote Tell me about Balaam.  Why did the donkey see the angel before Balaam could see him?  Did he manifest two different bodies?This question has already been answered during a discussion with Terraricca.  It was expounded there.  Maybe you did not read it, but OK…Let me ask you, rhetorically, do you know what that episode was…[Read more]

Hi Mike.You said: Quote Toby, your explanation about Paul wanting a body like the one Jesus NOW HAS IN HEAVEN makes no sense, nor is one bit of it scriptural.  And this is why I didn't want to waste my time doing a debate with you.Mikeboll, are you saying that Scriptures and Paul do not say that the dead will be raised up in from the dead and be…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.You said,Quote Either show me FROM SCRIPTURE that Jesus no longer has a body in heaven, or let it go.Heaven is the realm of the Spirit – do you agree?Jesus is a Spirit in Heaven – do you agree?A Spirit is Incorporeal (Bodiless) – do you agree?So, Mikeboll, Spirits with bodies are all around us but we just can't see them?How many are…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.Thanks for your response.You said:Quote I see.  So you interpret this passage to be teaching that the bodiless Jesus will “put on” his body again when he returns, and Paul, who will be living in heaven, hopes to have his body be like the one Jesus will “put on” when he comes to earth?Mikeboll, can you see Jesus Now?Quote That's a bit…[Read more]

Hi Gene.On this, we agree: that no evidence has been shown by any 'pro-Spirit body' poster.  It is simply a matter of them creating new Scriptures of their own.  They refuse to acknowledge their misunderstanding by way of not commenting on posts that speak truth against them.  They therefore also acknowledge their misunderstanding by way of not co…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.Just out of interest – which Scripture(s) are you using to say that Jesus is now a Spirit in heaven?

Hi Mikeboll,You quote Phillippians 3:21 but what does Phillippians 3:20 say?Read both verses togther:“But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.Does the Scripture you refer to say “changed/transformed/modified…to be like the body Jesus now has in Heaven”?Please show me those word or even the allusion to them.When does Scriptures say that Paul and the other elect will have their bodies transformed to conform to that like Jesus has?Is it not “At the last trumpet”?And where is…[Read more]

Gene,I would tend to agree with you here.  I support your points concerning the Spirit in the physical world – the world of material matter in which all things are 'en-bodied' to one extent or another – that is: 'They are made of material matter'.I know some might then say, 'Oh, so there then could be immaterial matter!  But that would be a n…[Read more]

Hi Mikeboll.You said:Quote I understand “spiritual bodies” to be bodies that belong to spirit beings.  You don't understand it the same way as the rest of us, and that's okay.Well, I thought the idea of discussion in the forum was to get to the bottom of this descrepancy.This thread has only done 507 pages – The Trinity thread has done '2000'……[Read more]