Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,14:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,11:36)Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,20:32)5 You have made them a little lower than the gods    and crowned them with glory and honor.Who exactly are these gods that Jehovah made mankind a little lower than?Hi Mike,        They are not 'gods' but “Angels”…Quote You are correct that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,06:05)Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,05:52)Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have s…[Read more]

yes, they have some basic knowledge what religion teach ,and so think that they know the word of God ,no change sins Christ ;Jn 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.they do not believe in what is written how are they going to believe the event or understand them

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,13:13)Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,11:58)Terraricca,The difference in you and me is that I believe that what pre existed was the Word, also known as the Spirit of Christ, also known as the Spirit of the Son, and also known as the Holy Spirit (there is only one Spirit), which is a part of the one God – it is God's very…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,12:29)Hi Terraricca, We have been over this before and I get pretty tired of repetition. But okay, you have had your say.Regarding the topic – I did not like the way you were speaking to other members. I hope to see some lasting improvement. Anyway, Terraricca – All the best. Might catch up on some other thread, okay?…[Read more]

MartyQuote No, I know he came down from heaven. The scriptures tell me that he was conceived of the Holy Ghost and born of the virgin Mary, and then, he was baptized with the Holy Ghost, and God spoke to humanity through him.If scriptures says that he came down from heaven how could he come through a women and be her child when no men seed was…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,06:40)Quote The bible does not teach eternal torments,it teach eternal destruction ,this means you are gone ,means total destructionThe rest of your comment does not tell me anything just grammarGood. So how did you come to that conclusion? Through study? through word study? Well to you, word study when something does…[Read more]

2beeQuote “To us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, on account of whom are all things, and we by Him.do you not see that Christ his son is HIS assistant and that God almighty the father is creating all things through him and for him ,if the scriptures calls the angels gods what would…[Read more]

2beeQuote Through Christ is through his spirit, not another little god. Scripture does not say that.show me one scripture that says this ???I mean that ALL CREATION WAS DONE THROUGH CHRIST SPIRIT

Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,06:40)Quote The bible does not teach eternal torments,it teach eternal destruction ,this means you are gone ,means total destructionThe rest of your comment does not tell me anything just grammarGood. So how did you come to that conclusion? Through study? through word study? Well to you, word study when something does…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,05:52)Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was w…[Read more]

allwe have also to consider that the first converts where Jews not gentiles and so Hebrew was written

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,05:19)Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,20:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,06:38)Pierre,We do NOT know from scripture that the Son was created as his very first creation. In fact He possessed Him before His works of old.Kathypossessed him only means that ” HE WAS THERE ” you cannot possessed some thing that does…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,19:06)Mike and Terriccca………All your qustion have been answered over and over and over by not only me but, everyone else here , it's not our fault you can't comprehend them. Is it becasue you two have a mental block or what? your both sow indoctrinated into you doctrine of confusion as ARe all Preexistences…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,22:10)Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,12:29)JODICol 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,11:27)Terraricca,”To us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, on account of whom are all things, and we by Him.Paul used two completely different words ….. ex-ἐξ for the Father and di'-δι'for the Lord Jesus Christ…..which most versions translate as…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,11:36)Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,15:20)Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,07:58)Terraricca,I will get to your verse later on but for now, could you answer the question I asked.You do not really know what pre existed. You do not know if it was an Angel, or a little God, do you?So which one is it for you?Only Christ as…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,08:28)Mike………The difference between me and you is, when I hear the truth I know it, and acknowledge it, you and your co-hart Pierre on the other hand, have no idea of it, and can only disagree and stumble along, trying to make scripture say what it obviously, does not say. As far as riding on Jodie's coat…[Read more]

MikeGene repeats himself in all topics ,in the four years I have known him ,I almost sure that he as only about 20 answers even if it shows that he as thousands ,they all are an variation of the twenty,:D

Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,07:58)Terraricca,I will get to your verse later on but for now, could you answer the question I asked.You do not really know what pre existed. You do not know if it was an Angel, or a little God, do you?So which one is it for you?Only Christ as preexistance this means he pre existed his live as an human,This is what I…[Read more]