stroshow replied to the topic Understanding Jesus as God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 3 months ago
Nick,Please read through Hebrews 1:6-1:10 God the Father isspeaking of the Son Jesus, to whom the Father says,”(vs 8) But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, OGod…(vs 10) And, Thou, Lord……”how is it that here the Father is calling JesusGod, and the Father is calling Jesus Lord?Nick, why is it the Father can call Jesus God andLord, yet you do…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Nick,You wrote:Why is it that you believe there is only one “Lordof lords”? To be a lord of lords one has be be inauthority over other lords and not necessarily ALLlords. That is the role of God alone but Jesus islord of all lords under God.Response, Nick it does not say Jesus is the Lord ofall lords under God, you are CHANGING the word of God.It…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
You wrote “Jesus has divine nature and can be calleda god. But he is not our God as we are in him. His Godis the Father who is our God too.”Again, since there is only ONE TRUE GOD, and sinceJesus is called “MIGHTY GOD” is Jesus THE true God, ora “false” god?You wrote “God is the Lord of Jesus who isour Lord. God is Lord of lords.”While God is…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
I've asked this before but never really got an answer..”6 yet for us there is but one God, theFather,….there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,…”So my question for you is if the term “ONE God” meansthat Jesus is “a lesser god” then wouldn't that meanthat the term “one Lord”, here clearly identified asJesus, would make the Father “a lesser Lord”…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Who is yhwh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
WhiteMateria: im a supporter of Jesus being God & the trinity, i was just curious on you're thoughts on that verse
stroshow replied to the topic Who is yhwh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
WhiteMarteria: Im still waiting for ur take on: Revelation 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God.Never again will he leave it.I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.
stroshow replied to the topic Who is yhwh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
WhiteMateria: do u have an explanation for this? And who's name is he writing down?Revelation 3:12 (English-NIV)Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God.Never again will he leave it.I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Who is yhwh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
WhiteMateria : You seem to be full of anger
stroshow replied to the topic Who is yhwh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
t8, You wrote:How many saviors are there? How many gods are there?How many lords are there?Is there 1 God, yet it says: “there are many “gods”and many “lords”.Then you refer to 1 corinthians 8:5-6 pointing out”For even if there are so-called gods”Paul is not teaching there are many gods, surely yourealize that “so called” does not mean rea…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Has anyone seen God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
t8,The new testament passages that speak of no one seeingGod, obviously do not refer to Jesus. We agree onthat. They refer to the Father. You say they refer tothe Father, because only the Father is God. I say theyrefer to the Father because the context indicates thatthey refer to the Father, and people have clearly seenJesus.What you do is you say…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 7 months ago
Regarding the involvement of the Holy Spirit the verseseems clear that the conception was a result of theHoly Spirits involvement. In what way the verse doesnot say. But somehow, unexplained Jesus by the HolySpirit was able to enter into Mary's womb and be bornas a man. Matthew 1:18,Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on thiswise: When as his mother…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Has anyone seen God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
T8,You wrote:First of all if I were to believe you then it would beat the expense of clear teachings from theNew Testament. No matter what you say, scripturesays that no man can see God, but that the onlybegotten is the only one who can declare him. Thisis not one scripture but many.Response: I agree, No many has seen God, (the Father).That is…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic Has anyone seen God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 7 months ago
Just to be clear on WHO appeared to Abraham Acts 7:2- And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,So again, it is clear that GOD HIMSELF APPEARED,(stephen is ref. to the account in Genesis 12, yet aswe discussed no man has seen the…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 7 months ago
Just curious, i know u guys probably dont want to get into this again… but how you define essence?Someone with mind or power does not speak, teach, send,call, forbid, etc. all these are attributes of aperson, all of them are descriptive of the HolySpirit?
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 7 months ago
bic….1)It is easy to build an endless amount of falsedoctrines by using one or two (or even more) verses to'prove' a point whilst ignoring many other verseswhich contradict said verses. Then as a scenario youuse Luke 24:26 to show how, out of context a personmight use that verse to justify hating their family.Response. I agree that verses need…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
bic Thank you for ur response… John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the worldcannot receive, because it seeth him not, neitherknoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth withyou, and shall be in youI looked up this verse in “18” DIFFERENT translationsincluding the following: KJV, NKJV, NIV, NASB, NLT,ESV, CEV, ASV, YLT, NLT, HCBS, NIRV,…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
doesnt fellowship mean hang out? or socialize
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
What about2 Corinthians 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all?
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy SpiritLuke 3:21-22 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from…[Read more]
stroshow replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 19 years, 8 months ago
Nick, thats fine if you think that.. But my point is how could the Holy spirit be gods spirit, send people,forbid people, speak on its own? To me that sounds like a person… Are u just dismissing those Scriptures?
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