shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,11:14)Shimmer,Isaiah 26:19 sounds interesting. Have you looked into it?Kerwin, “Your dead shall live. My dead bodies shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in the dust; for your dew is like the dew of herbs, and the earth will cast forth the dead”.That's good, and see, that is talking of a resurrection of bodies,…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,11:08)Shimmer and David,We must also remember that our natural body being perishable is damaged by the passage of time. Jesus being in a imperishable body would be in the optimal physical shape after his resurrection. That could render him hard to recognize to those used to seeing and hearing him in his natural b…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
The Spiritual BodyBy David Pyleshttp://www.pb.org/pbdocs/spiritual_body.htmlIt is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. – 1Cor 15:44Unfortunately, there are some who misuse this scripture in argument against a bodily resurrection, and some will say that, even if there is a…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
David, I have looked at that verse and I won't pretend that I have all of the answers because I don't. I do know that Jesus wasn't recognized at first, and this is simply because they were blinded with grief. It say's in Luke 24 that “Their eyes were kept from recognizing him”. But then further on….”Their eyes were opened, and they…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Titus 2:13 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 20 2010,09:05)About the cross, oh my, don't get me going…I get so irritated at those who criticize the cross as a symbol of Christianity…and those that claim that it was a stake and not a cross beam, as if that really matters. Imagine the logistics of hanging someone on a stake…it would have to be longer for the…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Jehovah's witnesses in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
David, Ed doesn't know what hes talking about half of the time, so I find it strange that he would judge you. However, I will say that you should leave the JWs and find a better church. One that believes in healing and one that follows the Holy Spirit and not the teachings of man. And also one that believes in the resurrection of Jesus in the…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Scriptures used to prove jesus is michael the arch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. He is the Word of God. If he was Michael it would say.
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 20 2010,10:46)Shimmer,I'm not quite understanding what you are saying.Are you saying that Jesus is in the Flesh in Heaven?Yes Jay, He is.Quote Please explain how he has done that.With God all things are possible. Can you explain how the earth or the heavens were made ? Quote I mean, how can Jesus' flesh body be 'in them…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,14:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,11:53)Mike…………In case you not understanding as it appears , I will repeat it to you . Angels are (NOT) Spirits they Have SPIRITS (IN) themHebrews 1:14 NIVAre not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Shimmer and Gene, what is…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
And Gene, this is important, if we believe with all of our heart that Jesus was risen from the dead then we are saved, and I find it sad that Mike would say something else and say it as if it is truth, and lead others to see it how he believes it to mean. And Mike, Gnostics believed as you do that Jesus was risen as a spirit being and still is a…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Gene, I don't agree with you at all about Jesus and pre-existance because I do believe Jesus pre-existed as the scriptures say he did, but that is another subject. But with this, I agree with you completely. They don't understand. And it's sad.
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Dec. 20 2010,10:57)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2010,07:15)Sad is all I can say.Maybe you all need to be unbrainwashed from what you have been taught by the JWs (Yes I know you say you never heard it from them, you learnt it from scripture….yeah right. Heres some good reading, I don't agree with all the rest of their site though but…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Sad is all I can say.Maybe you all need to be unbrainwashed from what you have been taught by the JWs (Yes I know you say you never heard it from them, you learnt it from scripture….yeah right. Heres some good reading, I don't agree with all the rest of their site though but still…. http://4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-resurrection.phpYou will…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Pray about it.
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike and Irene, I will also add that I had prayed and asked today what it meant by 'flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven' and the word 'corrupt' (flesh and blood) was given to me. Then I looked up the commentaries which also said the word corrupt. So, it seems what I have been shown regarding the risen flesh of Christ is also backed up not…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Even Bible commentaries seem to agree.Gill's Exposition of the Entire Biblehttp://bible.cc/1_corinthians/15-50.htmNow this I say, brethren,…. Upon the whole, I assert this, and observe it to you, out of a truly Christian respect for you, as brethren in the Lord, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God: this shows the necessity…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike, you didn't even read what St Justyn said so what you say and what you have others believe is your own.You three…four..five maybe can all stand together on this. I stand on the side of truth as God is showing me. Since yesterday. I prayed that I be led into all truth and I was and am being led……..so if we are both believing different…[Read more]
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 19 2010,11:34)Shimmer, do you need glasses? Spiritual Glasses?Yeah I did need them and I received them yesterday, thanks for asking.
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote “…..wishing to show them this also, that it is not impossible for flesh to ascend into heaven (as He had said that our dwelling-place is in heaven), He was taken up into heaven while they beheld, Acts 1:9 as He was in the flesh.So, who will you believe ? Jesus and the Early Church ? Or do you prefer, as Mike does, the teachings of the JWs ?
shimmer replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 19 2010,11:34)Also, a flesh and blood body, even a Spiritual flesh and blood body, cannot enter heaven….See, Jay, this is where you have been led astray by the JWs. You can follow whatever they say but I will follow what the early church believed.Here are some parts of St Justyn Martyr's writings……….The early church…[Read more]
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