Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 24 2010,09:01)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 23 2010,05:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,06:52)Hi allI must say that in all the time I have been here I have not seen anyone with the knowledge, and the gracefulness in presenting that knowledge as I see Francis has done in this debate.And finally I understand what the Trinity…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,06:52)Hi allI must say that in all the time I have been here I have not seen anyone with the knowledge, and the gracefulness in presenting that knowledge as I see Francis has done in this debate.And finally I understand what the Trinity means.Thank you Francis.Quote Francis Posted: Dec. 21 2010,04:34 Quote Or…[Read more]

Hi TimI think it's important to obey God. I also believe it's better to live by faith, to have the Bible available for whenever God wants to speak (That's how it used to happen to me). I loved people. I have found that being on a forum like this, it does something. All of the different opinions and debating, it's too confusing. I feel lost these…[Read more]

Terrarica, I will (answer) tomorrow…iv ran out time. Ok…bye.

Terrarica, are you a JW ? It sounds like you are.I was giving David an honest answer, you don't agree with it so you get upset.For your information, whenever the JWs come to my door I am friendly, I welcome them in if I have met them before, I speak nicely, and I don't debate with them. I accept their magazines and say thankyou. And I have friends…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,13:09)shimmer……….They Just do not get it!, i can't believe how something so simple can be so confusing to people. Just put (ALL) the Scriptures together and they will have the answer. Was God (IN) Jesus? Yes he was according to Jesus, NOW is GOD SPIRIT? YES HE IS, according to Jesus,  Now was GOD who is…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 23 2010,17:53)So in answer to your question shimmer:Quote So, David, think about the other thing I said, on the other thread, finding a better church.Whereas you said you don't have the answers, and these things remain puzzling to many, I do not find them puzzling.  We really should get into all those scriptures about Jesus'…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2010,13:23)shimmeryour info came from Mark;The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20. so were are your scriptures ,??to justify your NO.No Terrarica, not Mark but John. John 20:11-29 (ESV)Jesus Appears to Mary MagdaleneBut Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,16:26)the body he takes to make him visible to his disciples his not the original body ,otherwise his disciples would have recognize him and they did not do that ,right ? yesand it happen more then ones;Terrarica…..NO.Jesus appeared to the Disciples in the risen flesh and bone body.He was RAISED FROM THE DEAD. He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,15:26)And Shimmer,You might be right about whatever I posted before……..I don't remember anymore.  I know I've learned alot from this thread and have altered my understanding as I've found and been shown scriptures.  I'm right now not sure about angels “materializing” bodies at will.  It could also just be a ma…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,11:57)Are the posters here aware that Irene, Pierre and myself are NOT saying Jesus wasn't raised with a flesh body?We ACKNOWLEDGE the scripture where Jesus said he still had “flesh and bone”, and that spirits DON'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE.We are only waiting for the rest you to follow the OTHER part of that scripture.…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 22 2010,05:51)Isiah 26:19 O Thou Eternal , thy dead shall live again, awakening with songs of joy; for the dew falls with light and life.TIL DEATH SPIRITS ARISE……Hi Irene. Most Bible's have it as 'cast out the dead', not 'till death spirit's arise'http://bible.cc/isaiah/26-19.htmExampleWorld English BibleYour dead shall…[Read more]

Hi Barley, welcome back.Good post.

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 21 2010,22:38)Ed, Tim was talking to me ? If he wanted you to answer then he would have said…Ed ?Ed, I apologize for saying that.

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 28 2010,00:36)P.S. The last one on forgiveness reminded me of the amish . When that crazy guy burst into thier school and murdered 10+ kids, it was so horrible that they razed the building. But, the incredible witness to me was they took food to his widow (he commited suicide) and forgave him.I know. That was amazing. How…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 21 2010,04:28)Shimmer: I still wish somebody could show me where sin, from its beginning was ever deeds done, good or bad. Sin is in the heart/mind first. Deeds also start in the heart/mind. Everything we do starts in the mind, we think and then do. Sin, deeds, works, all start in the mind with thoughts. Good thoughts or…[Read more]

Ed, Tim was talking to me ? If he wanted you to answer then he would have said…Ed ?

Kerwin, they just don't understand, they don't understand Jesus when he said “See my hands and feet, that it is truly me. Touch me and see, for a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones, as you see that I have.” Never mind.

Mike, you say the man I quoted agrees with you, and that it is what you have been saying all along, but you havent been. This man say's Jesus is flesh and bone…a flesh and bone resurrected body which is glorified……..as most of Christianity also believes…….. where you say he is Spirit only,You NOW say you were saying Jesus has a body ?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2010,11:33)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2010,15:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,14:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,11:53)Mike…………In case you not understanding as it appears , I will repeat it to you . Angels are (NOT) Spirits they Have SPIRITS (IN) themHebrews 1:14 NIVAre not all angels ministering…[Read more]