Hi Ed,If the Holy Spirit is God the Father, what is the word ?In the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was God.I can't read all this thread, it's like 103 pages,

Hi NBbibleJc.So, do you go to a Church ? I'm in NZ like you are,  Hi. Here, you will find so many opinions it will get quite confusing. Most here have studied Scripture for many years, I – like you – have not….thanks for sharing your story,Ok, my turn…I always loved God, since I was young I believed, I went to church, but eventually thought…[Read more]

JustAskin, thank you.I really heard that, and I understand.I have to obey what I was shown, rather than go the wrong way,Thank you, really.

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2010,17:48)The same way Jesus relates to God; because we all preexisted. (Jer.1:5 / John 15:27)John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.Hi Ed. If those verses are proof that we all pre-existed, don't you…[Read more]

Ed, as I just said to you, I don't know what to believe half the time ?Why is Christianity so confusing and why are there so many opinions ?Sometimes like lately, I think I have it all figured, then, I don't know.I suppose God reveals what he will, when he will, to whom he will.Also, Jesus said, you don't have because you don't ask ?

Gene, it's funny, I used to say you were wrong with that, I can see where you and other's are coming from now, I don't know 100% if you are right or wrong, but I do see some thing's, how it fits in to the picture, kind of.But still, if the world were to end today, whoever does the will of God has done all they can. Someone could have all the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 29 2010,02:34)Hi Shimmer and Gene,Gen 3:8 They heard the sound of the LORD God WALKING in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife HID themselves from the PRESENCE of the LORD God “among the trees” of the garden. Please look at the three all cap words:WALKINGHIDPRESENCEYou take things literally when they…[Read more]

To all,I am just learning. To me these sorts of discussions such as did Jesus pre-exist ,etc, they are just thing's which are interesting sometimes to think about but I don't believe they are the big deal people make them out to be.  Which is exactly my point,Does it really matter if someone believes in the Trinity or not ?No, I don't believe it…[Read more]

Kathi, I know what it's like to read the Early Church Fathers, I remember what it was like, really, it was quite exciting. The Eastern Orthodox who I learned a lot from, they follow all the writings and have quite a good analysis of them.

I agree Gene, also many come through the great tribulation, whatever and whenever that will be, Others also believe they will be raptured away from that before it happens so when it does, they will not be ready, we should be ready for whatever happens, whenever it happens. Just as Jesus was.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 27 2010,16:40)Worshipping Jesus,I am not sure why you consider that statement a circular argument as its conclusion is not its premise.   I do assume that it is true that a human being can and will stop sinning and thus urged you to believe it for your own good.   I also used scripture, in my plea, that does a similar thing t…[Read more]

David,It say's Adam and Eve HEARD God walking through the garden  God is spirit,Spirit is like the wind, it blows where it wants,   The Spirit where he willeth doth blow, and his voice thou dost hear, but thou hast not known whence he cometh, and whither he goeth; thus is every one who hath been born of the Spirit.” John 3 “In the beginning of G…[Read more]

David, I cant reply till later I have thing's to do.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2010,02:11)Shimmer……….I agree with you that Love is most certainly a feeling. I once heard a an Hour sermon on how Love is and intelligent choice and emotion had nothing to do with love he said, Pure hog wash. “For God Pities us as a father pities his childern.”  and again ” for you are sorrowed unto…[Read more]

Hi David, this was what I was about to post, so I will address it to you,  it may help ?I had these thoughts last night.“God no one hath ever seen”If God The Father is Spirit, If Jesus has a body, If Jesus is seated at “God's right hand”,  What is left for us to see ?It would only be Jesus, “Who is the image of the invisible God” “Jesus saith t…[Read more]

Hi Marty, I agree with you, what I meant was that, when I do wrong I feel distant to God, sin seperates us from God. As do other thing's like distractions of the mind. But those are good verses you use there.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2010,03:29)Shimmer,Good verses.  Who will believe is right!  The question that each should ask the Father is when was the very first begetting?  Was it before the ages as the early church fathers teach or was the first begetting that which produced a man in Mary, or was the first begetting after Jesus died?Did the fi…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 27 2010,10:18)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 26 2010,21:16)All, Thanks.I believe God's spirit is the truth which can be found, no matter where we are, the comforter,It knows us, it causes us to feel, to have compassion and to love. It leads us to truth, which is not truth full of knowledge but truth full of spirit. (Nous is the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 27 2010,09:42)Shimmer,You are showing Spiritual strength and righteousness. I knew you would…And, (Page 11), Yes, Just Ask. I have said to you many times… … ….Trust in YHVH, pray for His Spiritual support through the Holy Spirit – given by measure from his Son Jesus Christ.But beware of Satan seeing you and testing…[Read more]

(For any who dont know, Nous is the eyes of the soul, heart, the true meaning wont be found in any dictionary or encyclopedia but only from Christian orthodox sources)