In Hermas,The son (Holy Spirit) dwelt in Jesus (The Man),The flesh was subject to the Holy SpiritThe flesh laboured and co-operated with the SpiritThe flesh walked religiously, chastely, excellently, purely,The flesh was found without spot or defilementThe flesh for reward was made co-heir with the son.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2010,16:54)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 31 2010,23:13)Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannonThe parable of the FieldThe son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the…[Read more]

Ed, the Holy Spirit is the Son of GodThe Son of God came to dwell in a chosen man JesusJesus became co-heir with the Son of God.

Hi Ed,I used my link, I prefer the translation which is easier to read,http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.htmlGo down about halfway past the commandments, to the third book, similtudes, to the 5th similtude,

Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannonThe parable of the FieldThe son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the son,https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y262056I believe this,

How I understand it,The field is the worldThe Lord of the world is He who created, and perfected, and strengthened all thingsThe son is the Holy SpiritThe son takes the form of a slave (who is Lord of the people, having received all Authority from His Father)The vines are people whom He himself plantedThe stakes are the Holy AngelsThe weed's…[Read more]

Here's the part about the Holy Spirit and the Son of God,Parable/Similitude VCHAPTER II. “Hear the similitude which I am about to narrate to you relative to fasting. A certain man had a field and many slaves, and he planted a certain part of the field with a vineyard, and selecting a faithful and beloved and much valued slave, he called him to…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 09 2010,12:49)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 09 2010,19:31)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 09 2010,00:16)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 09 2010,06:41)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 08 2010,04:18)Quote (karmarie @ July 12 2010,23:17)Ja, what is worship?   Quote..”Worship (PROSKUNEO) is a conscious glorification of God flowing from an inner attitude of…[Read more]

Hi Ed, ok, how or, what part of God ?

Hi Ed.But how come, if some here don't believe in pre-existance and see it as you just said, you believe in pre-existance, so to you, what was Jesus before being born ?

Sorry t8, I forgot it was here too,

Gene, I have never read here, what's all this about ?

Ed, remember when I said once, I cant 'get it' but I can spiritually, without thinking about it,Who else here see's it like you do ? Is it Rokkaman, Where is Jesus in this ? (please Ed, speak to me without all the numbers and verses)

Quote (martian @ Aug. 31 2010,07:02)On several threads I have asked for both Trinitarians an Pre-existers to show me good fruit from their doctrine. None has showed real fruit.This is what I am looking for —How does your doctrine change my heart? (not my mind)How does your doctrine make Christ a more viable example for me?How does your doctrine…[Read more]

Ed, so you believe 'the word' was God's spoken word, so do I ! (I think) And the Holy Spirit is God, is that what you mean ?

Hi KerwinThis is something I read years ago,The first book of Adam and Eve, also called – The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan.available here…lt's in short chapters, you need to click on the next chapter at the bottom of each page,http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe006.htm Here's a few fact's on…[Read more]

Quote (shara @ Aug. 30 2010,05:26)Jesus was not God.        * He was born a babe (Luke 2:7).        * He “increased in wisdom” (Luke 2:52).        * He “learned obedience by the things that he suffered” (Heb. 5:8).        * He was “in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin” (Heb. 4:15).        * He “offered up prayers and supplic…[Read more]

Hi Ed, can you explain it so I can understand, ok, so, the Word and the Holy Spirit are both God ?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 11 2010,22:37)Others were already raised from the dead and we know Jesus was Flesh and Bones when he ascendedSorry, I never answered this question bod, because I don't get it ?

Hi Ed, there's a part in it about the son of God, but it's different, so I plan to read it again over the next week,