David,You quote writings from 200 C.E. as though they were scripture. You say you've never gotten a response, I still maintain that scriptures show that early Christians were just as prone to error as we are (as I submitted earlier). We should be following the teaching of scriptures, not other writings which support our view point.

Scripture Seeker Great post, I'm in full agreementDavid,Why did Jesus say put your sword back in it's place and not throw it away?Your always quoting “beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears” but this takes place after the Lord's return when He will rule with a rod of iron.

Quote (seekingtruth @ May 04 2006,13:58)Where did I overstate, misquote or redirect, for example (sorry I don't know how to maintain the boxes around a series of quotes).”He was inculcating the principle of avoiding quarrels by not replying or reacting in kind. A slap on the cheek is not intended to injure physically but only to insult or to…[Read more]

Where did I overstate, misquote or redirect, for example (sorry I don't know how to maintain the boxes around a series of quotes).”He was inculcating the principle of avoiding quarrels by not replying or reacting in kind. A slap on the cheek is not intended to injure physically but only to insult or to provoke into a fight.”This is one of those…[Read more]

Well said Cubes on both posts

David, I've noticed from reading your other posts and during our discussions you tend to overstate, mis-quote, redirect, and quote as “the final authority” sources which agree with you. These are very effective tools to use so as to prevail in a discussion but these methods concern me. Your obviously a very intelligent person who has a heart for…[Read more]

I agree

Nick, I agree, most have heard many “gospels” but unless they see something different in your life it will be just one more variation to them. It's our lives that speak of something different so the Spirit can draw them to God, but we must be ready to answer for the hope that is within us.

malcolm ferris,I agree, at least in the USA there are not many people who haven't heard the Gospel but not many are seeing the Gospel lived. What we do, speaks much louder then what we say.

Quote (kenrch @ April 26 2006,06:13)How many are we now just Sandra myself and cubes then theirs t8 and I believe woutlaw.  The more logs on the fire the brighter the light!Me too

Quote (kenrch @ April 26 2006,06:13)How many are we now just Sandra myself and cubes then theirs t8 and I believe woutlaw.  The more logs on the fire the brighter the light!Me too

Quote (kenrch @ April 26 2006,06:13)How many are we now just Sandra myself and cubes then theirs t8 and I believe woutlaw.  The more logs on the fire the brighter the light!Me too

David,Many of your words are true regarding vengeance but I'm not talking vengeance I'm talking defence.I agree we are not to be part of the world, but that speaks of our motivations and desires.I agree that we love our enemy (the individuals) and care for their needs as it is in our power. But if my government takes a position to save innocents…[Read more]

I agree that the Kingdom of God is not fought in the natural but if I am to love others wouldn't I be doing so in defending the innocents against the likes of a Hitler? I'm not talking aggression on my part I'm saying that if people are being slaughtered and your saying I should just stand idly by, isn't that like saying to someone who needs food…[Read more]

I'm not sure it would prove anything, reading the corrections to early Christians from Paul, Peter, James, John, and Jesus (in Revelations), I don't see how they were much different then we are.

From what I understand the commandment should have been translated “thou shalt do no murders” not “thou shalt not kill” (somebody who knows how to translate let me know if this is wrong). For my part if called to war to defend my country I would go but as a medic, chaplin, or other position that would allow me to minister to others and show God's…[Read more]

Quote (ringo111 @ May 19 2004,05:14)Matthew 5An Eye for an Eye 38″You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If…[Read more]

Hi David,You already know my answer and I don't want to press it any further least it become an argument (I obviously haven't persuaded you, nor you me, so we will have to agree to dis-agree). But I would like to ask a couple of questions.To point out that the cross has been abused by some worshipping it does not make the cross itself bad.…[Read more]

I read this topic and went to bed puzzled. I've always wondered with the 10 virgins what the oil and lamps were (seemed awfull important to me). If they were just the Holy Spirit then why could it not be shared and how would it be dimminished by sharing. As I prayed I believe the Lord showed me that the oil and the lamps are revelations of God…[Read more]

Just to clarify my statment “I felt by doing so I was saving her from adding to her sin”. If I lust after a women modestly attired then the sin is all mine, but if she dresses in a manner which tempts one towards lust then we will have both sinned. This is why I felt that I was not adding to her sin (of having caused someone else to sin).Woutlaw,…[Read more]