Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2014,23:46)SktIn construction Yes, of automated systems.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2014,19:02)From another thread:Deuteronomy 3116 And the LORD said to Moses: “You are going to rest with your ancestors, and these people will soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land they are entering. They will forsake me and break the covenant I made with them. 17 And in that day I will become a…[Read more]

T,Like you, I once was a project manager and with as little as I know of people I could predict a lot about how things would go on the project based on my limited knowledge of these people (but I cannot foresee).Wm

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2014,09:33)Seeking Truth,I do not know if your opinion aligns with Scripture as the first recorded instance of Satan showing at least the appearance of sin is when he used the serpent to tempt Eve to sin.In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth and Satan was a creature of the heavens.  He only had a period of…[Read more]

To help others to better understand what I'm postulating:I believe that when sin manifested in lucifer, God understood He had to display for heaven's inhabitants why lucifer had to be thrown into the lake of fire (so they would continue to follow Him through love and not from fear). So I believe that God created our finite environment to…[Read more]

Actually one of your scriptures kind of supports my premise:Isaiah 14:24   The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying,***Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass***;      and as ***I have purposed, so shall it stand***: It does not say “I have foresaw it, so shall it stand” but “I have purposed, so shall it stand”. All the other scriptures you…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,20:13)Seekingtruth.We all here should have that attitude,but unfortunately they don't.All you have to do is have the will to ask,and scriptures will be provided.To ask is being humble.wakeup.I have been praying and searching for the truth. As I mentioned earlier I used to believe God knew all His works from beginning…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 20 2014,20:09)Hi Seeking Truth Isaiah 48:5   I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.journey42,God has a plan that He has declared to us, but are we just…[Read more]

kerwin,Not a chance, but is it because God foresaw it or because God's knowledge and power is far beyond His adversaries. Thanks for your input – Wm

Great because it is scripture I'm interested it.Wm

wakeup,No, that is the problem, I do not know that God knows the future, beyond what a being with infinite knowledge and infinite power can proclaim will happen (and cause to happen). That is why I'm scouring scripture to determine what the truth is, I'm not looking for opinions but what scripture teaches. So please post any scriptures you…[Read more]

wakeup,Thanks for the memory, your post made me smile, my mother was convinced that if I got a motorcycle (as a teenager) I would be dead in no time, well that was 44 years ago. Then a couple of years ago (at 72) she actually went for a ride with me (for a couple of hours!) and loved it.If you would please provide what verse you use that say's God…[Read more]

Wakeup,Thanks for the scripture, but does this teach that God knew this from foreknowledge or that He was confident that He had what it takes to bring it to past (right under satan's nose)? Perhaps that is the reason for so much symbolism? Are there scripture(s) that clearly teach that God knows details in the future. Please be patient with me,…[Read more]

terraricca,Thanks for your inputWm

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,13:06)Ps 103:6 The LORD works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed.(true believers)Ps 103:8 The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love.Ps 103:10 he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities. Ps 103:11 For as high as the heavens are above…[Read more]

Wakeup,I believe lucifer was created blameless:Ezekiel 28:14 You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till unrighteousness was found in you.16 In the abundance of your trade you were…[Read more]

Wakeup,Eleven Out of nineteen translations (on Biblegateway) translate ra' not as “evil” but as “disaster”, “calamity”  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.However it is the whole of scripture that gives us the correct understanding that the word chosen,…[Read more]

For the reasons spelled out by t8

I agree with terraricca 100% on this.Wm

For the greater good, that is always God's motive, just as a cancer patient getting a lung removed, it sounds awful and it's not that they don't want it, but it is better for the whole to have it removed.Wm