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    Kathi,Actually I believe the Father is best understood as being like our soul, embodying self (God in this case), exerting His will over His corporeal extension (the future begotten Son). So just as a human being's body provides our soul with it's interface to the world, so the “pre-incarnate” Jesus was God's extension to interface with us. Of…[Read more]

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    Kathi, Good poll with lots of choices but I got to go with #11. The Heavenly Father through His Word (The corporeal expression/manifestation of God). I almost went with #1, except as I see the Father existing outside/above our creation, His corporeal extension is a separate being but as an expression/manifestation of the Father, they are One.My…[Read more]

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    seekingtruth replied to the topic Does this work in the forum Test Posts 13 years ago

    Worked good for me.

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    Ed,I found something different for Matt.5:28?blepó: to look (at)Original Word: βλέπωPart of Speech: VerbTransliteration: blepóPhonetic Spelling: (blep'-o)Short Definition: I look, seeDefinition: (primarily physical), I look, see, perceive, discern.

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    KJ,You also have my sincere sympathy on your loss. “Lord I ask that you would be with Jack and his family, give them comfort, and the peace that only You can provide at times like this. Amen”Wm

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    Computers work fine, but smartphone still does not work.Thanks T8 for all your efforts they are appreciated.

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    seekingtruth replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years ago

    Richard,I like your technique for finding truth. It is difficult to discern truth from writings written in a different language, at a different time, to a different culture and it is only by the Holy Spirit that one can hope to scratch the surface of all the attributes of God's Son. (John 21:25).I've employed the same technique as you, but have…[Read more]

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    rebellman,While I agree with all that you've written, I struggle with one point. If we are to conform our activities to not offend another's faith, and with all the different “faiths” around, we would effectively be bound more than the law ever did. And what of those who are offended at the gospel, should we not present it out of fear of offending…[Read more]

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    Rebellman,Welcome to HN. Good post, we all need correction from time to time. I believe in seeking for truth but without love for God and one another, we search in vain. Hope you stick around.Wm

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    Quote Dear brothers and sisters, true doctrine have to fit in all Bible not just parts of it.vjesnik,Welcome, I like what you said, I usually put it as “it needs to line up with the whole of scripture”My English is not so good either (and it is the only language I speak).Hope you stick aroundWm

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    Jack,I wouldn't lean too heavily on formal education:Acts 4:12-14 Now when they saw the boldness and unfettered eloquence of Peter and John and perceived that they were unlearned and untrained in the schools , they marveled; and they recognized that they had been with Jesus. Wm

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    Ed and Tim,I believe that both of you are right… for the most part. The Law is important and while we're not under it's covenant it is still important to know what displeases the Lord and if we truly love God we will not want to do anything to displease Him.  Our salvation is based on faith, but if your faith does not make you want to please…[Read more]

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    Ed,The best example of a changing view was eternal punishment in hell. For 20 some years I followed the party line and believed and taught without Jesus one was lost and would suffer in hell for eternity.In the last few years I have made 2 major changes to this belief:1 I now believe that while Jesus' death is the only path to salvation, it does…[Read more]

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    EdTrinity, heaven, hell, nature of the soul, the power of love (agapi) and many others. In most cases I learned more from the search than from the person I was discussing with, but there were cases where it was laid out for me, requiring only to be verified with scripture.Wm

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    T8,Well the thread that spawned this one was on the (pre-existent) genealogies of Jesus.genealogies plural of ge·ne·al·o·gy (Noun) an account of the descent of a person, family, or group from an ancestor or from older formsHowever I still question what is to be gained, once both sides understand each other, and it has been clearly laid out for tho…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,10:05)Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 17 2011,21:17)So Mike have you stopped beating your wife??? Yes or NoNO Wm, I haven't stopped beating my wife because I never started beating her in the first place.  (Besides, I'm not married. :) )Come on Wm.  Give me a HARD one!  Or preferably, give me an example of one of MY &#…[Read more]

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    Ed,Good thread, there's no doubt that some use different techniques to manipulate their opponents, being more concerned with winning, than with truth. Its good to expose these techniques so others may recognize them for what they are.My "tactic" is I try to never dismiss anything out of hand until given a fair evaluation against scripture. Be…[Read more]

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    Example of a loaded question – If I state; “everything I say is a lie” am I telling the truth? yes or noFrom Wikipedia,A common way out of this argument is not to answer the question (e.g. with a simple 'yes' or 'no'), but to challenge the assumption behind the question. To use an earlier example, a good response to the question "Do you still bea…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 13 2011,23:02)T8………..Yes if you break down all the components three is what you get, but One is the complete component. For instance you example of North America, South America, Americas, The word Americas represents the total of them all. They are all the Americas. The same with Body Soul and Spirit, the word…[Read more]

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    seekingtruth replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2011,08:03)That is a good point, t8.  But if God divided everytime He brough forth another being, He would be a lot less now than when He started creating.  :)  I didn't divide myself to beget my son, why would God?  Mike,Actually you did divide yourself… of the 50 trillion cells (approx) in the human body you gave up…[Read more]

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