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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,07:49)Hi RD, God does not have a human body.But He is the Creator.Seems you rely on opinion a lot.Yes, precisely. God does not have a human body! Jesus was not his God in the flesh. Jesus is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.I rely on the scriptures. In what do you believe that am relying on…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal with***Jn 20:28John 20:28apekrithee thwmas kai eipen autw ho kurios mouANSWERED THOMAS AND HE SAID TO HIM THE LORD OF ME061 2381 2532 1511_7 0846_5 3588 2962 1473_2kai ho theos mouAND THE GOD OF ME!2532 3588 2316 1473_2Westcott & Hort…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,10:04)Hi RD CompareExodus 12:5Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:Numbers 6:14And he shall offer his offering unto the LORD, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,09:10)Hi RD, You state without giving proof that Jesus was not the son of Mary.I don't remember anything I have written wherein I have said that Jesus was not the son of Mary. What I did present, I did indeed give the scriptural proofs.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,09:10)Matthew 1:18Now the birth of Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,06:39)Hi RD, I have brought up the gennao threadBut “conceive”Lk 1.31″And behold you will conceive in your womb..”Lk 2.21″..his name was then callled Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived in the womb..”Lk 1.36”..Elizabeth has also conceived a son in her old age..”There are a variety of words…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,08:10)Hi RD, So Jesus had a head start?I believe I have already shown that Jesus did indeed have what one might consider a “head start”, since he was with his God and Father before the world of mankind was made. Adam, although God did not make him crooked, unjust, corrupt, did not have such a “head start”.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,08:05)Hi RD, So he was not a normal man with Mary as his mother? Why does scripture say he was conceived using the same word for the conception of J the B?The scriptures pertaining to Jesus' conception:But when he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph,…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,08:05)Hi RD, So he was not a normal man with Mary as his mother? Why does scripture say he was conceived using the same word for the conception of J the B?Of course, Jesus did physically come out of the womb of Mary, a descendant of David, and thus was “out of the loins” of David, in the royal descent. Jesus is…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    My statement: “thus brought the fallen sinful condition, incorrupt, crooked nature, upon man” should have read “thus brought the fallen sinful condition, **corrupt**, crooked nature, upon man.”Ronald

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (martian @ Jan. 21 2008,04:07)I agree with much of what you said. May I use your words in my own witnessing?Yes, feel free to do so. (You might want to correct some of the typos, etc. I didn't proofread very well before posting.)God bless.Christian love,Ronald

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,03:20)Hi RD, Was Christ son of Mary, partaking of her sin inherited nature?No, he did not receive from Mary the nature of sin. If he had, then he could not have been the sacrifice for sin.Jesus was the exact equivalent to Adam before Adam sinned. At creation, Adam was upright (straight, just — not crooked –…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal withJn 1:14 John 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. — King James Version.The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2008,12:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,14:04)Here Ill use your litterall translation… John 1:3panta di autou egeneto kai chwris autouALL (THINGS) THROUGH HIM CAME TO BE, AND APART FROM HIM3956 1223 0846_3 1096 2532 5565 0846_3egeneto oude henCAME TO BE NOT BUT ONE (THING).1096 3761 1520ho gegonenWHICH…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,14:04)RonThis is the relationship Jesus had with the Father…Jn 5:17But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God..John 5:17 -…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 14 2008,13:57)There are so many viewpoints being expressed that it is difficult to keep up with who believes what.Regardless, in answer to the question: What attributes does the Father have that the son doesn't?(1) Jesus does not share the attribute of being the God and Father of…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,14:04)RonYour post simply skirts around Jn 1:3 and Heb 1:10 and Col 1:16.I repeat…If we compare Heb 1:10 with John 1:3 then it gives us a clear picture of who Yeshua is.Unless you believe in another creator than YHWH!As I have shown from the scriptures, Yahweh is the Creator; jesus is the agent in creation.…[Read more]

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    Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 15 2008,23:19)Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 16 2008,00:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,19:04)ALL (THINGS) THROUGH HIM CAME TO BE, AND APART FROM HIM3956 1223 0846_3 1096 2532 5565 0846_3egeneto oude henCAME TO BE NOT BUT ONE (THING).1096 3761 1520ho gegonenWHICH HAS COME TO BE3739 1096Notice the…AND APART FROM…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,06:25)So the Most High needed a man to create all things through?The question, “So the Most High needed a man to create all things through?” has no relation to anything I said, since I never said that the Most High need a man to create all things through.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,06:25)Your…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 14 2008,13:04)Quote (6) Jesus does not share the attribute of being “God of gods” with his God and Father.http://tinyurl.com/2gbjxjWhere is the verse that says the Father of Yeshua is the God of gods, to the exclusion of Yeshua?Quote (7) Jesus does not share the attribute of being “God Almighty” with his God and…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 14 2008,13:04)Quote (5) Jesus does not share the attribute of being only true God who sent Jesus. — John 17:1,3.John 17:3 does not explicitly say Yeshua is not true God.second post down.It should be noted that Yahweh is the name applied to the Supreme Being – our Father, and Him whom Jesus called Father and God. — John…[Read more]

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