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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,22:18)Hi, The word RANSOM appears twice in the NTMatt 2028just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” 1Tim25For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Where is it written the raised will be educated and given a fresh opportunity?Yahweh comes to judge the world of mankind by means of the one (Jesus) whom he has appointed. has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Where is it written the raised will be educated and given a fresh opportunity?Yahweh comes to judge the world of mankind by means of the one whom he has appointed. has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance to all…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Hi RD, You say”Due to the ransom sacrifice of Jesus, those who are to be blessed include the dead as well as the living — the dead will be awakened from their “sleep” in death (Psalm 6:5; 146:4; Daniel 12:2; John 5:28,29 NASV; 11:11-14; 1 Thessalonians 4:14; 2 Peter 3:4) and will then be given an exact…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 13 2005,18:24)Hi jbl,I think there is actually NO Biblical evidence to support it. Here is one of many refutations of the JW premise that Jesus and the archangel Michael are one and the same:Colossians 1:16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,01:38), if the article o, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle: i.e. it denotes a farther description of…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal with…1 Tim 3:161 Timothy 3:16 is one of those scriptures that is often misrepresented by trinitarians as speaking of the “mystery of the godhead” (http://tinyurl.com/yotz92) or the “mystery of the trinity”. Many seem to read the expression “mystery of godliness” as…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:12)Of course “all things” does not mean God himself, which is clarified in John 1:1 – 3.At least this admits that “all things” does not mean absolutely everything in the universe.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:12)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:07)Yes that is exactly my point. You take “your literal rendering” as you gave on page 1004 and place it above the W&H Interlinear. I am not sure what this is supposed to mean, and I feel like I am debating on something totally irrelevant to the issue.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:07)True it…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 24 2008,01:04)Hi RD, Sin comes from the earthy body.Scripture? I am not sure what point is trying to be made.Of course, if one is minding the flesh, instead of the spirit (Romans 8:6), as Adam did in listening to the voice of his wife, instead of God, then one is being led into sin. I would not, however, say, in the case…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,06:58)Hi RD, If being sinfree was dead easy for Christ because he was born different how can we follow him?Following Christ does not mean that we make ourselves sin free. I am puzzled that anyone would think this. Of course, by means of Christ working in us, and as one brings the body of flesh more and more into…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,06:27)Hi Rd, Were the prophets normal men? If God could keep their vessels suitable for His purpose why not Christ? Christ was a normal man.The prophets were normal men condemned in Adam's original sin, who, through faith in the promises and the typical arrangements that pointed to the reality in Christ, were…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (acertainchap @ Jan. 23 2008,06:37)Rd, you have great incite into Scripture and I for one am glad that you took the time to type all of that to help us out. I agree with all that you said here but was confused with the part in beginning where you talk about man being crowned with 'that glory'. Not sure with what you mean by that statement.…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal with… Phil 2:6-8Philippians 2:6hos en morphee theou huparchwn ouch harpagmonWHO IN FORM OF GOD EXISTING NOT SNATCHING3739 1722 3444 2316 5224 5225 3756 0725heegeesato to einai isa thewHE CONSIDERED THE TO BE EQUAL (THINGS) TO GOD,2233 3588 1511 2470 2316Philippians…[Read more]

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    Quote (ronday888 @ Jan. 23 2008,04:35)I do believe that Jesus was a normal man as Adam was a normal man, and I do *not* believe that Jesus' orgins were some sort of godman. Jesus was not a man at all until he became flesh; in doing so, he no longer was the divine being, which is why the scripture uses the past tense — was — in John 1:1.I will…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (martian @ Jan. 23 2008,00:02)The scriptures are not the finale measuring rod.In reality, one cannot get to know Jesus and his God without a realization of the scriptures as the means by which to know them. Otherwise, we can be misled by a spirit claiming to bring light.God has revealed his truths by means of his holy spirit through the…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Jan. 23 2008,04:32)I think you are way over complicating the verse. The context is about the pharasees justifying themselvs by their heritage in Abraham. Jesus says before Abraham was I AM. In otherwords befoe Abraham existed there was the Great I AM. Correcting the pharasees by saying they should have justified themselvs by God…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 23 2008,00:19)Hi RD, It is a relic of catholicism that Christ is held not to be a normal man that we can follow but because of his origins some sort of a godman. I believe his origins were true with God but that gave him NO ADVANTAGE and that what he knew even about his origins was given him by his anointing in the Spirit…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (martian @ Jan. 22 2008,03:01)Ron,Could you please tell me the way you would explin these scriptur. I copy this from another forum. It was a response to me, made to defend the divinity of Christ and the Trinity.  I would appreciate your input on the verses.In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus…[Read more]

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    ronday888 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 22 2008,07:52)Hi RD,Self perfection or grace?No can be reckoned perfect without the grace that comes through the blood of Christ. (Romans 3:28; 4; Romans 5:1; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:4-9) No one can make himself perfect in faith without the grace given through God's holy spirit, his power in our lives. As God said to…[Read more]

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