Quote Hey Ringo. “beloved ,do not believe every spirit,but test the spirits to see whether they are from God.”1 Jn 4.These days there are plenty of churches relying on signs and wonders rather than making sure they are themslves established in the Lord and his word first.The Holy Spirit takes us back to the Word and Jesus and we need both the Word…[Read more]

I appologise for miss representing your opinion T8 on the matter of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I got your opinion on Jesus being the holy spirit, and your opinion about Jesus Is the spirit wisdom Mixed up.For both teachings are deluded. You can see why I would easily confuse the two. Please accept my appologies. LoL, we know what happens if you…[Read more]

Yes, it warns that in the end days, men will gather around themselves many teachers, to tell them what they want to hear. Also Jesus talked about those who think they find life in books, and not in action. It is something I have become aware of in my most recent discussions about the bible.John 5. 39-4039You diligently study the Scriptures because…[Read more]

Quote Hi Ringo111You and I are diametrically opposed in both our thought processes and theologies and I honestly cant see how we can continue this exchange without it getting nasty. Im also starting to become acutely conscious of my own witness to truth seekers and new christians who might visit these message boards….so much bickering and…[Read more]

For starters, please dont feed off T8's hardened heart, and think yourself greater than the scriptures. Please dont post only agreeing with what you want, without questioning your beliefs. Just because of the opinion of someone who remotly agree's with you, you choose theyre stance. This of which you are doing is called, Bullying, Which is an…[Read more]

Firstly, I agree Jesus was in existance before his time on earth.Seccondly T8 agree's with you on the poiint that you say that you disagree with him,, that is, the view that Jesus was not created. (unless he has changed his mind) For he beleives that you can be born without having a beggining.Thirdly, Jesus is compared with Angels, created things.…[Read more]

I am quoting the uncorrupted scriptures, with the Writings of the new testiment that do not contradict the Scriptures.That is the weeding out process, It is quite simple.Once again you ingore my points, and puff yourself up.You are the one ignoring scriptures.If you believed the bibles you read today, That is, without the old testiment. You would…[Read more]

My belief in Jesus Is not because of a book, but because of the power shown to me. I do not contend that the New Testiment is wrong. I contend that it is not scripture.I also Contend that it has been mis-translated, having added parts. I have allready stated how Many people who wanted to change the Meaning of the Christianity, only bothered…[Read more]

Quote ringo111, I said that Wisdom being Christ is my opinion. Also I said that I do not agree with you ignoring the teachings of the Apostles, because it doesn't fit with your understanding of the OT. Off an opinion, You defend a belief. Why??I am conteding that it is not a teaching of the apostles. But an inserted lie. Which is a view supported…[Read more]

Yes , build on the rock, Solid tested teaching!! Get rid of the lies and build on Good teachings. This is why Im so much writing. Your Theology(ideas) do not fit into the scripture's. They do not fit into the Old Testiment, which Jesus, & the disciples and paul called the scriptures. Theyre own writtings were just that, writings. It has only been…[Read more]

Heyo T8u call me Crazy?? Nothing but smoke?? Ive layed clear foundations for why I believe, I call you to test your belief, but u just ignore the points. not all but some Why do you still believe that The world was created through someone when Proverbs 8:22-31 Clearly states that Wisdom was Born, watched god create many things, Then started her…[Read more]

Oh yes, T8, You used those quotes to say that Jesus Is important. ^-^Yes Jesus is extreamly Important, And those quotes just proove my case even stronger, Because Jesus Quoted the OT, and said that the OT was correct. You claim I did not egknoledge this point, and then you say that because of that, I might be missunderstanding scripture.To quote…[Read more]

The writer makes the distinction, Between, His letters, and scripture.No where in the new testimate, Do they then Go to say, You should consider the writings written to you as scripture.But then again, all things should be tested.We know that the torah was correct, Because Jesus Quoted it, and the disciples quoted it, as for the new testiment,…[Read more]

T8, I am not excluding any writings. I addressed them in full. I prooved them faulse, you just ignored them.Why dont you let scripture change you then?? It is by the scripture that this is obvious. Only a few contradictionary lies support your view, If you look closely you will see that you have in fact done what you accuse me of, that is, making…[Read more]

I guess to show that he is Not allways a pansy,(gracious, patient) that he wont allways let ppl(people) do what they want, and that when he decides it, those who choose his ways dont have to be that strong because he is theyre strength. Like tiny israel armies killing massive armies, and stuff like that. Guess its to proove, That if you choose his…[Read more]

It is not so easy to detect lies, For many true people,, believe lies, Because they believe a persons statement, Someone who pretends to be holy, yet is not, And there are many quotes in bible that back up theyre claims, without consideration of all scriptues.Seccondly, You say that the torah, does not have the gospel. You are wrong, The…[Read more]

Law and Grace – is a subject that unstable people distort. And then say Law VS Grace.It is really Law of men VS Law(many) of Old covernent VS Law of New covernent (which ppl like to call GRACE) Law cannot be seperated from grace, for if GoD was not gracefull we would not have anything. The old covernent was Grace too. So people that say it isnt…[Read more]

I do not call all writings faulty, They must be tested and weighed against what is presented. The wiegh is the Torah, and the writings themselves. The scriptures that Jesus & the disciples called the scripture was the Torah(Jewish writings)The Toarah, Is Extreamly reliable, As We have Many peoples that held those same Books. We ad the several…[Read more]

I see you still have not responded, Hmm, Well, here are some more points.Proof Jesus is Not the holy Spirit!!Jesus talks to the pharasees John 5:38-4038nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that…[Read more]

Point #1 You talk about “the bible” as if there was only one version to read, only one translation. But that is not the case. There are many bibles that say all kinds of claims that are made up. Mormon bible, Aquarius bible, JKV , NIV, ASV, watever u want ,, they are all contrary in many points.This is why the holy spirit was sent, to guide those…[Read more]