I think this has gone off on rabbit trails and we are not looking at the right things to answer the question of Jesus being resurrected and why was HeFirst of all, it was not just His body involved. It is all about the blood and body given for atonement.His blood was shed for our forgiveness and His body was broke for healing and, redemption that…[Read more]

Guncher, Quote What did Apostle Paul mean when he said that believers in Jesus are new creationsDid he mean to say that we are refurbished sinners, or something elseIf we really are new, why do we still sinThis is, (just) one of the most misunderstood subjects because some can't wrap their mind around being born again.Wakeup, Quote Corinthians…[Read more]

Guncher,This very thing is why so many people get offended at God and find something else to believe.Let me share in a couple of way that is not as harsh or threating to us.Lets say your great grandfather from 10 generation back was a man before his time who figured out the DNA and GENES of our seed and knew somehow that if he would mix some of…[Read more]

Don't forget that people will always attack what they don't understand and are unwilling to know.I am not one who cannot learn something about God's word, but if I don't believe in what someone believes, I don't get offended and believe that I can justify myself by attacking them.I get tired of people who attack others over the Word having never…[Read more]

this gut limjunus,I have read some of the posts and it's hard to determine if he is in the COC or not. COC should be the Church of Christ that believes they are the only church, and you must be baptized by water in their church and they use no musical instruments in their worship.They believe you baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the…[Read more]

Ed j Quote “The Son's” name is: “Jesus””The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH””The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word” Baptizing in Jesus name means exactly the same, and here's how That is something like what they believe, at least the statement that baptizing in the name of Jesus and or the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost is the…[Read more]

mikeboll64, Quote Who are “UPC's”? I would like to be baptized into the name of Jesus – like the disciples all baptized.They are the United Pentecostal Church. They believe that if you are not baptized by them saying the words, “I baptize you in the name of Jesus” you did not do it right and thus your salvation is not valid.They disregard what…[Read more]

Some good thoughts here. I myself will not let any other books influence me without already having a good foundation.I was saved in August of 1973, and the preacher at that time, knowing I had a moving experience told me to never just accept every thing he said. Kind of shocking at first, but showed me the scripture in Act where some having heard…[Read more]

2besee, Quote Either in the beginning or when they change and their heart departs from you?Remember that Jesus cannot lie, so if He said “I NEVER knew you”, then He NEVER knew them, not that He used to but now can't remember them.

On the subject of lawlessness, what about that scripture,Mat_7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I “never knew” you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity, or lawlessnessIf you know someone at what time, or point can you say “I never knew you”?I appears that those are ones who confessed to know Him but never possessed Him,(or intimately knew Him).

mikeboll64, Quote Similarly, I asked a pastor at my friend's non-denominational church to baptize me a couple of years ago, and although there was no official course or questions, he insisted on meeting with me at a coffee house first to explain to me that baptism wasn't some kind of magic potion that was going to make everything in my life…[Read more]

I must follow up on the statement Quote “To KNOW the Father and the Son, is to do all that you do with and for them” Also the question Quote How do we get that personal and intimate relationship with Him?I think the former states of works as opposed to grace. Works will never get us into Heaven or please God.i guess I've answered myself in the…

I like the answers that it is a “personal and intimate relationship” with God and Jesus.Although I'm not comfortable with the statement “To KNOW the Father and the Son, is to do all that you do with and for them”Remember that Jesus will tell some that who said they had done great things, (works) for Him, but that's where Jesus says to them that He…[Read more]

If you are a Baptist then it's understood you believe in certain things and don't believe in things like speaking in tongues.Full Gospel believes in healing for the body is in the Atonement of Jesus. Jehovah Witness, Seventh Day, and Mormons have beliefs different from each other.

I have a background in the Baptist, pentecostal, Church of Christ and Nazarene beliefs. Most of the protestant beliefs.

Okay, but still I want to know what is meant to “KNOW” the Lord. What do you think it means to you in light of all the scriptures above.?Like I said it seems to me that if you say you know the Lord, you still could hear the Lord say “depart from me”, even though these people said that they did all these works in His name. They must have known, (at…[Read more]

I have noticed on this thread and others this scripture is used,Joh_17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sentJust what does this mean to you who use this? What do you get from the “know”? this should be in the light of, Jas_2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou…[Read more]

Enough is enough. Evidently you just want to argue about something of which you know very little and have very little desire to know anything but that which you think is right regardless of scriptures. I don't get off on challenging people with silly questions that cannot be answered.I use the KJV and if you use another that's fine, but to keep…[Read more]

I did, it's in Prov.18:21