Marlin1, I would like to know where you got this doctrine from, I have been in the Word for 39 years and have run across many different views and teachings, but this takes the cake for me. When The Word states as plainly as it does in Gen. 4 that “Adam knew Eve and she bear Cain” would have to purposely miss quoted in order to believe in a false…[Read more]

Marlin1, you did not read my whole post. If Jesus told the people of his day they were of their father the devil, then all would be of Cain.The truth is, that speaks of Adam's fallen nature passed down. If the people then and now do the works of the devil, their father, then we are all of Cain and not Adam.He is of the wicked one because of his…[Read more]

Marlin1, Quote Satan have a child vicariously – CAIN, the seed of the serpentSir, please read Gen. Chapter 4. It says that Adam knew Eve and she had THEIR first man child CAIN.Read this carefully,Joh_8:41 Ye do the deeds of your FATHER. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Joh_8:42 Jesus said unto…[Read more]

Marlin1, Okay, you don't believe that Adam's sin was passed down to us all, then explain why we are born sinners.Why all of us need redemption.God did not make Adam a sinner, so how are we made sinners.There are things that you cannot understand about man and God and will never understand redemption.You will not understand the other things that…[Read more]

Marlin1, Quote God does not hold us responsible for Adam's sins.Do you remember the story in the Old Testament when the Israelites fought at Jericho and won, but when they went up against Ai they lost bad and Joshua ask the Lord why and He said there was sin in the camp.A lot of men died because of one man who stoled stuff and hid it in his tent.…[Read more]

Marlin1, About that fact that we do not pay for our fathers sin is correct. We do suffer the consequences by what he does that can be seen. If your father leaves your mom and does not have anything to do with you physically or mentally or financially, his sin of abandonment affects you for life.I used this in another post, If your great great…[Read more]

Marlin1, Quote The question here should be What did they eat? For it was the cause of the EVIL Nature of all mankind.How can you confirm this and still say that Adams nature was not affected and passed down through seed?Reading my post I show the Word that said death is passed down to all from Adam.How can that happen expect through his seed.The…[Read more]

Marlin1, you have to read my post again. It all has to do with the seed.I will say it this way. THE NATURE OF MAN IS IN HIS SEED.Adam walked with God in the cool of the day, but after they ate of the forbidden tree, Adam was in fear and knew shame and could not face God. That shows that Adam's nature changed.When Adam passed seed, he passed the…[Read more]

mikeboll64 , Quote Using ONLY the words of Jesus himself, as DIRECTLY quoted by John up until chapter 8, verse 24, can you show us where JESUS HIMSELF ever claimed to be God, or equal to Him?Forgive me if I missed something in the posts, but I must say that you can not just take on a scripture or set of them in one place and know enough about it…[Read more]

seekingtruth, I started out in a independent baptist church and did myself attended the Assembly of God church for a few years, but much rather go to a non-denominational or independent full gospel church.You will probably never find a church that will believe everything you do, but there are some that are close enough that I can deal with a few…[Read more]

2besee, I know of some that started out believing in God and knew His will, but let emotions control what they now hold on to.On man was a preacher in Ok. while watching the TV about the genocide going on in Africa he was despondent about all those people and of his own Grandparents who were not Christians, said he heard a voice saying that…[Read more]

Marlin1, I have posted this in other threads and it's seems that it goes beyond their ability to grasp it. It is no secrete that it is the Spirit of God that will revile the truth to our spirits not our minds. It is up to us to renew our minds. Things that Gods states in His Word are like Peter that said is hard to be understood, but must be…[Read more]

To all:I continually find the same things debated in most threads and using the same thoughts and scriptures.To those who don't believe in the original sin will have a hard time explaining the sin in all of us.Read Rom. 5 real close and you will find that by one man, (Adam) sin brought death, (spiritual and physical) into the world, (mankind)…[Read more]

To all, we have to remember that we live in a different time than in the early church. I do believe we are in the last days and true faith is diluted in greed and fame or fortune.We seem to have more against us, (Christians) than for us when we spend more time at work, school family etc.We don't have people, (or ourselves) that are willing to do…[Read more]

Gene Balthrop, Quote Jesus also said………..When the son of man comes will he find faith on the earth? That seems to be part of the key answer. Most people are okay with going to church and letting the preacher tell them what to believe without going into the scriptures themselves and knowing the will of God for mankind.I remember the story in…[Read more]

Okay, still looking for the elusive answers to the question of this thread.

Well, this got off course…….again.Almost every thread I have been in or read it always come to this. Why can't we stay on the subject?Everybody comes up with the same scriptures and thoughts that echo through each post and thread.I don't want to get off myself, but let say this one thing:I MYSELF, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SAVED IN A…[Read more]

2besee, Quote Those who think that they know it all, usually know nothing.Knowing the Father and knowing the Son is actually knowing their will.It seems to offend people that I say that I am confident, (and bold) about what I know and believe. I will give some scriptures.Pro_4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all…[Read more]

942767, When you state that there is one Lord, which is Jesus is right, but then you switch back to us with one faith and one baptism.It is written in Acts that “there is no other name, (Jesus) under heaven given among men where by we must be saved”.It is written that He is the Way, Life, and the Door etc. It would be accurate to say it is “Only”…[Read more]

2besee, Quote So, Rich, what is your belief, briefly? (so that I know!)I have stated in the thread ” again abut the trinity” what I believe,but misunderstood so I will reluctantly state my position again.As stated above I am not convinced that there is 3 separate Gods.I do believe in John 1 and 1John 5:7 that complement each other and explain that…[Read more]