@proclaimer
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Gen 1:14And God says, “Let luminaries be in the expanse of the heavens,
It says it right there. The expanse has waters above it and below it.
Regarding your “lol”, your “How about really thinking about the following logic”…
I think this addresses the value of your “logic”:
Matt 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Fat…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Continuing on:
using the Tanak alone, this is how some will treat the messiah which perhaps you yourself may be included:
no beauty that we should desire him
despised and rejected
not esteemed
The stone the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone.
They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him.The first…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Continuing on:
Once as the lamb of God who was sacrificed for mankind’s sins. And returns as a reigning king to setup the Kingdom of God on earth.
What verse states the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind from the Tanakh? I believe I asked you this question once before and never received a response.
Read Exodus 32:30-35,…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately the Jesus fails on being a member of the tribe of Judah; biologically he isn’t connected to the line of David because the spirit is the one who fathered him (Luke 1:26-35, Matt 1:18). It is of the seed of David the Messiah is to be born of (2 Sam 7:12-17, I Chron 11-14). Lineage is associated with the father and not t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 months, 2 weeks ago
The Hebrew word for “sky” in day two is the same Hebrew word for “heavens” in verse one. The form is a dual/plural usually written a collective singular but sometimes is shown plural depending on the verb that is used with it when the word is a subject of a sentence. You can see that the stars were placed in the expanse that is in…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 10 months, 2 weeks ago
in Luke 5.8, Peter says to Jesus, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man” which is simply an expression of awe and unworthiness. It has nothing to do with being cast away from God forever. When Jesus says it, he is also not always talking about the final judgement.
Not the verse I was referencing I was speaking on Matt 7:21-23 whe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 months ago
You wrote:
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
It was all there before Day 1.
I read the beginning of Genesis as a title or overview of what is to come in the verses that come after the first part of chapter one. For instance, we are told that the expanse called heaven was not made till day two, so the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 months ago
Reposted because it has seemed to have been overlooked.
You Wrote:
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus a…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 months, 2 weeks ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:
Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:
- The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 months, 3 weeks ago
You wrote:
And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.
Let’s start here:
In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 months, 3 weeks ago
You wrote:
It doesn’t say that God created the sun and moon on Day 4. They merely appeared in the firmament.
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Regarding what you wrote:
We are now living in Day Seven : God’s rest. And just as before, this day is not limited to twenty-four hours.
There have been many of God’s Sabbath rests in God’s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.
LU
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 months, 4 weeks ago
The New Testament is precise…
Yet, I have pointed out over the last 1.5+ years the errors of the NT and how it doesn’t align with the Tanakh or how passages quoted from the Tanakh are taken out of context and/or twisted to fit the christian narrative. I have shown Paul is a liar and manipulator. I have proven the Jesus canNOT be t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 12 months ago
And there it is!!!! Finally someone went out and studied a scriptural passage!! There is hope for one finding the truth!
Now what you need to do is apply this same method to EVERYTHING you have been told is truth! Like I have said, spend your time in the Tanakh and NOT the NT and study what G-d said. G-d never once spoke in the NT…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 months ago
Que?!!?
I didn’t say verse 4, but day 4 was when G-d created natural light; where HE placed the sun, moon, and stars to govern the day and the night. Nothing in the creation account does it speak of “clouds thinning out” and there being light. There’s a theory which states there was a “cloud” that covered the entire planet crea…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 months ago
You wrote:
Hebrews 3:11 (quoting Psalm 95:11):
“So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.”You do realize that verse has nothing to do with the seventh day rest, right? The rest mentioned in Hebrews 3:11 is about the particular generation of Israelites not being allowed into the promise land due to their dis…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 months ago
You asked:
So you’re saying it was a spiritual day / light that also had evening and morning?
Good question, I think that the light of day one has to do with the Son of God who is “The Light of the World” entering the dimension of creation.
The term “day” was what God called the light. The darkness that was called night is d…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 1 year ago
New Testament aside.
Yes, do this for about two months and study the Tanakh; if you can, set aside the Jesus biases that have been planted in your mind.
Logic tells you there is an original devil or original one who first rejected God by exercising free will.
Please give the passage from the Tanakh where Satan is said to have rebelled…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 1 year, 1 month ago
@Proclaimer
Excuse me Proclaimer for speaking to you when you haven’t spoken to me.@DT
At the end of time, Islam
will submit to God or the Devil, the beast and the false prophet.
12] And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be…[Read more]- Load More

