Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,07:56)You say Jesus is a Spirit being like the Father I agree that the Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of God. But are you saying that angels, and men who are spirits “ARE” the same “Spirit” God is? Are the angels spirit the Spirit of God? Is your Spirit the Spirit of God? Because Jesus Spirit is the Spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Yes, and you cannot separate identity from nature can you?Pity you said that. But we have made progress all the same.It is OK for you to have no distinction between identity and nature. It limits your understanding and makes it hard when identifying God/Adam/The Devil etc.Because qualitatively speaking…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Look again t8 they were accusing him of saying he was the “Son of God” and that is why they were going to stone him. Why is that t8?The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, “because he made himself the Son of God. John 19:7Great we have progress. This has been my point all…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)And what is that t8? You do not even tell us “What” he is. You say he is not merely a man yet you say he is not God. If he is not a mere man or God, what is he t8?Do you doubt scripture?If so, your argument is not with me as I am merely repeating that which is written.Philippians 3:21who, by the pow…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:31)Really? Where are the scriptures that call the angels “Sons of God”?I don't want to diverge too much here, but angels are called sons of God below. You may disagree that one or more of the scriptures below are not referring to angels, if so, that is another topic and belongs elsewhere. But the first 2 s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,09:04)t8They were “One Flesh” which means they are qualitatively human or mankind.The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are qualitativley God or Godkind.Why is that so hard to understand?WJAsk yourself the question why scripture says, “ye are theos”, and “Ye are elohim, you are all sons of the Most High”.Ask…[Read more]

Do I hear an amen KJ?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,07:11)Really MikeSo then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that “THERE IS NO GOD BUT ONE”.. For even if “THERE ARE SO CALLED GODS”, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),What part of ”THERE IS NO GOD BUT O…[Read more]

WJ, where is your faith in your own understanding. You try to paint the picture of being right, yet you fail the last step. You do not address your God as THEM, THEY.So deep down you must know it is wrong. Otherwise you should do it as a demonstration of your own teaching.This seems to be a case of you saying “do what I say, don't do as I do.”

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)Are you sure you want to start since your doctrine also includes a Trinity and since you cannot tell the difference in the three by their nature or when they speak to you? Since all things come through Jesus by the Spirit, why do you not say they or them? Could it be that in real life you give little…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)Ha Ha The dilemma is with you unless you can tell me the difference in the three when God works or speaks or acts on your behalf.Why don’t you say “THEY told me this or that” or “THEY led me here and there” or “I trust in “THEM” and their word”?Quite simple WJ. There is one mediator between God and m…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,09:53)Worthy of reply? Ha Ha! Does that mean you will not answer the questions after that huge lecture about those on this board not answering questions?Usually wouldn't say such a thing WJ, but for you I think it is necessary.To clarify, there might be points you make that are a waste of time for me to…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)WHEN GOD SPEAKS TO YOU DO YOU SAY “THEY” SPOKE TO ME, IF NOT WHY NOT?DOES GOD SPEAK TO YOU WITHOUT JESUS OR THE HOLY SPIRIT? REMEMBER T8 YOU SAY THAT ALL THINGS COME THROUGH JESUS SO HOW IS IT YOU DO NOT INCLUDE JESUS WHEN YOU SAY GOD SPOKE TO YOU?IF SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IF IT IS THE  FA…[Read more]

Hi jbl.This is certainly a very difficult time for you right now.I had a vision of the River of Life when I was about 20 years of age.It made me see how beautiful life can be and will be when we are free from this world and the body. Please read it, it will give you hope that there is indeed a God who loves us beyond anything you can…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,09:05)You cannot seperate “adam” from Adam. Adam is part of adam.Adam is adam but adam is not Adam unless you are indetifying the right particular individual.Again, it is the difference of identifying a specific individual as opposed to talking about substance/flesh/nature.The distinction is in scripture and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2011,12:47)Hi Jack,You never did tell us what denomination the church is that you go to?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdjAre you a follower of Paul, Peter, or Jesus?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,08:59)Really?Is there any other “ONLY BEGOTTEN (MONOGENES) SON” T8?wjHe is the firstborn among many.Ye are elohim, you are all sons of the Most High.

KJ, if this is the best argument you can put forward, then you have lost.You fail to address the reality of how scripture uses the words theos/elohim and adam.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,01:51)Therefore, when you say that jesus is God “qualitatively” you affirm that He is God according to Webster's second definition of the word “being.” You affirm that Jesus is God in His qualities and His constitution, that is, IN HIS VERY BEING.Eve is adam qualitatively speaking, but she is not and never will…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,01:51)t8,You have answered your own question a thousand times. You have said that Jesus is God qualitatively. This means that he is God in His very being.WRONG.Theos and elohim are applied to others in the same manner.That is the reality that you are unable to grapple with.