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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 16 2011,04:14)t8A Mystery? First of all please present a scripture that says Jesus “will become” anything, for my Bible says he is the same, yesterday, today and forever”!Dear WJ, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,04:30)Another straw man being burnt to the ground.t8 Do you believe the Bible is the scriptures?That Bible that you claim so much as being Gods word was copied translated and preserved by the RCC since the early first century.Not to mention you believe in a lot of the Catholic doctrine yourself lile the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,01:46)TO All,I marvel that t8 has involved himself in two debates with WJ. t8 has said numerous times here that Jesus is God qualitatively. This means that Jesus is God! t8 will need to give up his “qualitative” explanation if he is going to be consistent and have a chance against WJ.If he doesn't then he…[Read more]

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    The sons of God are mentioned two or three times in Job.Who are they?NIVOne day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.NLTOne day the members of the heavenly court came to present themselves before the LORD, and the Accuser, Satan, came with them.ESVNow there was a day when the sons of God came to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    You say pure conjecture, and this is coming from a man who teaches the Trinity doctrine. I hope you can see the irony.Nayway, WJ it is OK if you do not believe that angels are sons of God. It matters not to me either in this debate and yes it is possible that they are not the sons of God, although I think very unlikely.After all it was the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,04:24)Yes t8But no Trinitarian says that he is “less God” qualitatively do they?”Those that are “honest” would admit that the word “God” in John 1:1c qualitatively says the Word is everything that God is?””The “DISHONEST” make the claim that the Word in John 1:1c is “less qualitatively” than God”WJ, whether…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,06:13)Paladin said:Quote All christians are in form God, as God lives in us and influences the changes in our lives.Jesus said, “You have not seen His form” (John 5:37). If all christians are in God form, then we have seen His form and Jesus was confused when He said that we have not seen His form.So you…[Read more]

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    Yes Edj, I believe you can. Jesus is after all called the Second Adam.For the head of man is Christ.The head of Christ is God.The head of the woman is the man.So if the woman is the image of the man, and Christ is the image of God, then are we all not an images of God?The image (Christ), and an image of the image (man) as well as an image of an…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,09:09)t8Why are you being obscure? Just answer the question.Try again…Does Jesus share or partake of Gods nature?Hint, the body that we recieve that will be like Christ has to do with his humanity.Ill ask it this way.Whos “Divine” nature are we being changed into?WJIf I am being obscure, then scripture is…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:57)t8Does Jesus share or partake of Gods nature?WJWJI will let scripture answer you.We can participate in divine nature.He existed with divine nature and took on the form of a servant and being found fashioned as a man (partook of human nature).Our lowly bodies will be transformed into a body like his.If…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:55)But you haven't given us an example of “identifying” anything or anyone without identifying their nature have you?Like I said before. If I say Fido, then I am identifying because I am using a name. I haven't said that Fido is a dog.If he happens to be a dog then you know that because Fido is a dog.If I…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:47)t8s model of confession is “If he is human in nature and if he has equality in nature, it still doesn't make him human.” Again, your confession is Jesus is “less” than “the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being”,No that is your perception of it.Let me correct you.”If he is…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:47)Really? Spin, spin spin. For example; please explain how a human son can not be human like his Father in nature?Not spin. It is the truth because it is what scripture says.All men are not Adam.All men are adam that is they are human in nature.Now God who is the Divine has divine nature and he shares his…[Read more]

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    Yes please put me in the Hot Seat.It's a bit cold right now.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,08:35)Will anyone or does anyone but Jesus and the Father sit in Gods throne t8?It is a simple yes or no question! You didn't answer my questions t8, why not? Should we put you on the hot seat?WJOnly the Father and Jesus will sit on the Father's throne.Now my question. Will anyone but Jesus sit in Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:19)BTW t8Since you are insisting that Jesus is like other “gods” when the word “theos” or “elohiym” is referred to Jesus, then let us hear you confession that Jesus is “your god”!Is Jesus your god t8?  If not, why not?You call satan “the God” of this world yet you can't say that Jesus is your…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)Does any other so-called gods have his position and role or are any others “the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word…”? Heb 1:3Read what you wrote again.You said that he is the representation of his being.It says representation,…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)then please explain to us how he is not God or even better how he is not “equally” God in nature?If he is divine in nature and if he has equality in nature, it still doesn't make him God.Similarly, if Eve has adam nature and is equal in nature to Adam, then she is still not Adam himself.Adam was the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 15 2011,05:04)Now, since Jesus sits in the Throne of God and having the rule of God by having all authority and power, and since all things are upheld by the Word of his (Jesus) power (Heb 1:3) and that by him all things consist (Col 1:17) and come from him to us, then please explain to us how he is not God or even…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,06:47)Jesus is not in a class of being by himself is he?Whatever class of being he is, we will be given bodies like his one and he will call us brothers.

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