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Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,09:07)Keith,It tells us that there is only day in eternity…no more nights.NASBIs 60:19″No longer will you have the sun for light by day, Nor for brightness will the moon give you light; But you will have the LORD for an everlasting light, And your God for your glory.Revelation 21:23 The city does not need the sun…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 7 months ago
That is a wise and true saying.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
This so-called pagan crap comes from the inspired scriptural verse: 2 Peter 1:4.We can partake in divine nature. It is what it says and it is what I say too.You can call that what you like, but I don't even know of a pagan who would call that crap.BTW, you gave up debating “Kangaroo Jack versus t8 on Christ's divinity”. I know it was because you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer can't win the debates in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 7 months ago
Kangaroo Jack.You came in all guns blazing, but it appears you have run out of bullets.It is only a pity that you were not able to acknowledge that you were wrong about your interpretation of 1 John 5:20 20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Try making a Post in the forum Test Posts 15 years, 7 months ago
True that.This whole place is testy.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2011,14:22)I don't think it should be “paranoia” t8. I think it should be a very real threat: ANSWER HONESTLY AND DIRECTLY, OR GET A TILE.There are only two things that could possibly happen from a rule like this:1. People will start answering honestly and directly to avoid tiles.2. People who are afraid to ans…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2011,04:46)Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,04:17)Therefore, The Hotseat, or similar, is the best way. The poser can ask a single Explicit question based on the original question and the responder MUST answer directly or concede.The answer MUST be accepted by the poser so as not to encourage long drawn out debate and turn…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
So we know that we can partake in divine nature.Case closed.Now that Istari/JA is posting again, does he want to continue his debate with WJ?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Kangaroo Jack versus t8 on christ's divinity in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
So I won this debate KJ.1 John 5:20 is not saying that Jesus is the true God. On the contrary, it is saying that the Father is the true God.Debate over.1 John 5:20 is no longer a Trinity proof verse and cannot be used by KJ as such.20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
You know WJ, you can try to diverge the topic, but I will hold you to answering the question that this debate is about.Why do you accuse Jesus of blasphemy by saying that he is God, when he actually said, 'I am God’s Son'?. You will have to answer this question, or admit that you have no defense and thus you accuse Jesus of blasphemy because you s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
WJ, if I can show you one scripture that calls one man an angel, then you have to concede that you are wrong about Malak being exclusively reserved as a word for heavenly beings.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
WJ, an angel is a messenger and that word can be applied to Man, Seraph, Cherub, and probably any type of creature that God uses as a messenger.God sent most of the time, messengers from Heaven to proclaim a message. Moses for example saw an angel/messenger on Mt Sinai. The prophets often were shown things by heavenly angels. But men can also be…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is jesus god the angel?? in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 7 months ago
Of course Jesus is an angel. Malak means messenger and it can be applied to heavenly creatures as well as man.Malak is not a race or species as some think. It is an office.If we want to talk about races or species of heavenly creatures then we have Cherubs, Seraphs, and others and of course in scripture they are called angels because they are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
WJ, this debate is centred around this question.Why do you not call God, THEM or THEY as your doctrine dictates? You have failed to provide an answer, so is it time for me to turn the debate off or allow others to participate and proclaim that you lost?So far you are on the losing end here, because you have avoided the question and as KJ rightly…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 03 2011,09:10)Uh oh Keith. Mike said you had to answer “honestly” which means you should have answered “No.” So if his daddy t8 gives him what he wants you'll get tiled.JackYou are being paranoid KJ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 03 2011,05:57)The whole thing is stupid! If someone doesn't answer a question the whole internet world can see it if it is running and hiding.Like here KJ?https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….2;st=50I mean, you have stopped debating here because it appears that you are stumped.So yes, you are right when you say that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2011,04:26)T8 and mikeis there a redemption if you are tiled
PierreYes there is always redemption when you amend that which you were tiled for.Proclaimer replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 15 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 03 2011,02:11)NO because we are under no contract here and we may come and go as we please unless it is a formal debate inwhich parties agreed upon set terms.KJTrue KJ.What happens when you debate someone and they refuse to acknowledge that they are stumped or refuse a question because it proves them wrong?In the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 15 years, 7 months ago
Maybe it should be in the Debates and Hot Seat forums only.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 7 months ago
Sorry WJ. But there are too many holes in your teaching and your rebuttals against myself and Mike are exceptionally weak that they do not stand.Here are 5 facts that you cannot accept.1) Others are called theos/elohim in a qualitative or representative sense.2) We are specifically taught that there is one God the Father.3) We are specifically…[Read more]
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