Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,13:58)And I've argued against this one, for that would mean that Jesus IS God's own wisdom and reason. It would mean that JESUS is the “smart one”, so to speak, and God is the “dumb one”. It would mean that the Father could not make a wise decision on his own, apart from His wisdom, Jesus. It would mean that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2011,20:05)So if Jesus came forth from God even as John came forth from God then it follows that in the same way Jesus sent his apostles into the world even as he states in verse18, chapter 17 of John.  He also states in verse 14 that the apostles are not of the world.But if Jesus is preexistent spirit being who were sent…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2011,14:03)We would never say, “Marty partook in human nature”, because you have never been anything but human nature, right?That is a good point and another indicator that Jesus existed with another nature namely divine because he partook of human nature. Likewise we can partake of divine nature.To partake means to join…[Read more]

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I haven't read this document, so no comment on that.But my comment on something I read in this page. To be from everlasting does not mean you have always existed forever.It implies at most that he came before time. Because what was before time?Perhaps eternity? NOTE: Eon actually means age and is the word for world because this world is the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,04:01)Hi AllI worship the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit for they are God!  WJGood to see you using the word “they”.Don't forget to use the word “them” too. Just don't use “Him” or “his”. That would be deceptive.We use those words who believe that the Father is the one true God.Thanks WJ.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,04:01)Hi AllI worship the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit for they are God!  WJGood to see you using the word “they”.Don't forget to use the word “them” too. Just don't use “Him” or “his”. That would be deceptive.We use those words who believe that the Father is the one true God.Thanks WJ.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,07:04)Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2011,22:05)Did it ever occur to you that the fact that the Son is 'of' God as well as the Holy Spirit is 'of God,' that may be part of what makes God Almighty.  If the Son and Holy Spirit were not 'of' God, then God might not be the 'Almighty' God.  El Shaddai, God Almighty, m…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 01 2011,19:59)Here is a further list of atheists:Lance ArmstrongIsaac AsimovDavid AttenboroughIngmar BergmanJohannes BrahmsJim BroadbentDerren BrownHenri Cartier-BressonNoam ChomskySir Arthur C. ClarkeBilly ConnollySir Noël CowardFrancis CrickRichard DawkinsFrederick DeliusMarlene DietrichMarcus du SautoyRichard FeynmanJodie…[Read more]

There is evidence.Global flood is not the same as flooding the world. The world is civilization and civilization was not global. Floods are perfect for fossil creation and it takes events like that to create fossils. We have fossils do we not?Humans do not walk again, but the righteous live after death even while their old Earth suit lies rotting…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 01 2011,19:27)It is scientific because science does demand that people not be satisfied with not understanding. Scripture is historical fiction, a description of events that did not actually happen against an historical background that is half right.Don't know who would knowingly make that the basis of his spirituality.Sounds…[Read more]

If you mean that there is a creator, then yes I am certainly in that camp and in good company too.The other camp is the foolish one. Because it is a fool who denies that a camera is designed/created. Likewise with the eye, the Earth, and the heavens.

Quote (942767 @ May 30 2011,08:58)Hi Mike:No, we did not already exist with a divine nature, and neither did Jesus.  He was born into this world and infant just like all of humanity, but unlike all of us who were born of the sperm of man, he did not go astrayHow do you make this scripture go away?Philippians 2:6-11 (New International Version)6…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 12 2011,09:35)t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature?  I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him.  He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He h…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 12 2011,09:35)t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature?  I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him.  He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He h…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,05:22)t8You didn't answer my questions. Why not?The fact that Jesus has a body and our bodies are going to be changed and fashioned like his glorious body is further proof that Jesus is not an angel.Are you saying we are brothers to his divine nature or his human nature?WJ, I have read this for the first…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,05:22)t8You didn't answer my questions. Why not?The fact that Jesus has a body and our bodies are going to be changed and fashioned like his glorious body is further proof that Jesus is not an angel.Are you saying we are brothers to his divine nature or his human nature?WJ, I have read this for the first…[Read more]

True Istari.It is written that men will kill and think that they are doing God a favour. John 16:2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.Men have crazy ideas about God and what God wants, the daily news is testament to that fact.The reason why we must…[Read more]

True Istari.It is written that men will kill and think that they are doing God a favour. John 16:2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.Men have crazy ideas about God and what God wants, the daily news is testament to that fact.The reason why we must…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2011,06:34)Hi AllEveryone has a right to their opinion don't they?  WJYes they do, even if it is wrong.Likewise people have the right to sin.Not all rights are right. They are just what is permissible.But all that is permissible has a price, whether good or bad.