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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2011,06:37)T8……..The Logos IS the very expression of GOD and His words are with him.If that is the case, then is it not possible in your thinking that the Logos was given birth or at some stage was WITH God? Because if that was possible, then God making everything through Christ as well as the Logos would make…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,12:14)This is mish-mashed, illogical, nonsensical English, Gene.How can any sensible person say “He HAD that glory but he didn't really have until later”?Yeah Gene.Until you can explain this and other things, why should anyone take what you say as being true.If you don't understand your own doctrine, or if…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,09:27)Do you ever say God is my rock and “HE” is my Savour?Do you ever call God your Father and only God?As said many times to you before WJ, God is ultimately the one who saved us.Why?Because it was HE who sent his son into the world to save the world. Jesus didn't come in his own name under his own accord,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,09:14)That is your strategy right there WJ. Accuse the other person of doing what you are doing.I have noticed that sometimes people's pet hate is the very thing they do but because they can't face up to it themselves, they decide to pin it on others.I stumped you once again, and then you decide to bring out…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,02:41)t8 Stick your head in the sand if you like.That is your strategy right there WJ. Accuse the other person of doing what you are doing.I have noticed that sometimes people's pet hate is the very thing they do but because they can't face up to it themselves, they decide to pin it on others.I stumped you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
After that question, can you give me the exact verse where YHWH is the mighty God?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
First question.Is Jesus the Heavenly Father according to this verse?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,03:12)Well t8Then you must also accuse Isaiah of calling Jesus the Mighty God and YHVH in the same breath.Was Isaiah an idiot for giving the same divine title to Jesus as YHVH?For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2011,00:37)T8………Lets be honest there is hardly any difference between Preexistences and TrinitariansVery narrow minded of you gene.Trinitarians believe that three persons are God. That is primarily what defines the Trinity doctrine.Preexistence is believed by most Christians whether they are Trinitarian or not.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
The scripture “mighty el and everlasting father” is a scripture that both Trinitarians and Oneness exploit.Trinitarians say that mighty el is tantamount to Almighty God and Oneness say the same thing but also tack on that Jesus is the Father.Both groups are guilty of exploiting this scripture for their own twisted agenda.The bizzare thing is that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,14:56)Here's another example of “Exception for Jesus” logic:Yes that exception rule is definitely bizarre.As soon as Jesus is mentioned all logic and teaching by pattern in scripture is thrown out the window.Ye are theos is pretty much ignored, while any kind of attribution of theos to Christ and that makes him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,13:51)Quote (Pastry @ June 21 2011,15:57)t8 I am sure surprised that you believe in the trinity.Hi Irene,You have mistaken something t8 said, for he clearly does NOT believe in the trinity, and tirelessly and brilliantly shows how comically flawed that doctrine is.Perhaps your new meds are messin' with your head?…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Ed J for second Moderator. in the forum View Points 15 years, 4 months ago
There are 3 moderators currently, although 1 hasn't been here for quite some time.But yes, more mods is possible.We use to have 4 at one stage, but one of them didn't work out.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 22 2011,12:48)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,03:09)Quote (t8 @ June 21 2011,16:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,08:30)How many “theos/gods” do you have, believe in and serve David”?WJWJ admitted earlier to theos having other uses, but he did that only because it suited him at the time. t8This is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,11:59)Quote (t8 @ June 21 2011,17:08)Another example is three persons being God, and yet THEY are not THEY, but for some strange illogical reason are HIM.t8This is a logical fallacy since their are many pliral unities we refer to as “them or they”.If I refer to my government I can say “they or them”.If we say…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
It says “…They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child,…”Grammatically, the “Me” and the “him” cannot refer to the same individual can it?I find it in line with reality that the false doctrine of the Trinity relies heavily on grammatically incorrect English. Another example is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2011,08:30)How many “theos/gods” do you have, believe in and serve David”?WJWJ admitted earlier to theos having other uses, but he did that only because it suited him at the time. Now it doesn't suit him, so he goes back to ridiculing the idea that 'ye are gods' and that the use of theos there was also applicable…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Scientific Quotes in the forum Creation & Science 15 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 21 2011,17:40)You were more interesting when you were talking about unicorns.Let me guess, it was the part where I said to give you imagination free reign as they do in Evolution theory.What about Leprechauns. Their size helped them to run under small trees and fallen logs thereby allowing them to escape predators who were quite…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bizzaro World Doctrines in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 4 months ago
I like Bizzaro World. Plenty of laughs had by all. More please. WJ, more inspiration too.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 4 months ago
So in order to dig yourself out of a hole that you dug yourself, you now have to admit that there are other legit uses for theos in scripture.It was a long time coming WJ. You should really be more accepting of truth to begin with rather than only admitting it when it benefits you.My next post will come today probably. No time to do that now. But…[Read more]
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