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Proclaimer replied to the topic Discussion on Jehovah/God as the Son in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Let's look at what you believe.Jehovah = God of gods x Lord of lords.God of gods is the FatherLord of lords is Jesus.Simple deduction from what you teach here is that Jesus is not God, but Lord.Have you come full circle on this, or am I not understanding you correctly because I seem to remember when you were teaching that Jesus was God.I am…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
One more thing kathi is that the word LORD in the Old Testament is not the same as the word Lord in the New Testament. This has led to many a confusion especially with Trinitarians who freely interchange these words as if they were the same.The passage that says: God made Jesus both Lord and Christ, is not true if you render the Old Testament word…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic LORD Lord and lord in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 3 months ago
Predominantly, the King James Version of the Old Testament translates three different Hebrew words as lord; however, it does so with a careful use of upper case letters to let the reader know which word is in the original texts. When the King James Version translates the Hebrew word for Jehovah as lord, it uses LORD in all capitals. When the King…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic LORD Lord and lord in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 3 months ago
What is the difference between LORD, Lord, and lord.Many people trip over these differences. For example, YHWH is translated LORD and we know that Jesus is called Lord. So people think that this all means that Jesus is God. This is a misconception.Due to time restraints I am not going to put this in my own words but will quote part of a web page.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
OK, I had a second take of your post and I think my response is more of a response to what you have said in the past.So Let's look at what you believe.Jehovah = God of gods x Lord of lords.God of gods is the FatherLord of lords is Jesus.Simple deduction from what you teach here is that Jesus is not God, but Lord.Have you come full circle on this,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 02 2011,15:06)t8,You don't quite get what I am saying. I will try to explain:Deut 10:17 tells us who Jehovah our God is:For the LORD (Jehovah) your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. Jehovah our God = God of gods + Lord of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus still a man in heaven? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 3 months ago
That is a function of the board software rather than a purposeful feature.It would be quite hard to change as it would require extra programming, and in a language that I am not that familiar with, i.e., Perl. Rather than patch this software up, I would probably prefer to use a different system.But I am waiting for social networking to become…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 01 2011,13:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,13:35)Mike,You just need to know why Jehovah is the most high and the most high what. Then you will understand.Jesus is called 'son of the Most High God'.But the Father is not called 'Father of the Most High God'.Your understanding appears to not work with the above facts.Do you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Archaeologist sees proof for bible in ancient wall in the forum Archaeology & Biblical History 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Stu @ Aug. 02 2011,00:41)Since the question was not about computer code, I removed that irrelevant part of your answer.A computer executes code. It can be a PC, tablet, smartphone, or even punch card machine.It comes from the word compute.Nature executes code too.If it didn't, then we wouldn't bother with deciphering the DNA of species for…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 02 2011,09:28)Why do you not use the same definitions of “identity” and “nature” that we ALL must use? I'll tell you why. Because it puts your damnable theology into question.KJ.Nature has names as do people for identification purposes. We identify individuals with names as we identify different natures with names. That…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Applying KJs doctrineTo Adam.God named the species Adam and called the first man Adam.One idenifies the adam, the other the species.So Adam can be adam, but she is not Adam.ThanksAdam.InterpretationHi KJ.God named the species Adam and called the first man Adam.One idenifies the man, the other the species or nature.So Eve can be adam, but she is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
KJ, you are embarrassing yourself.
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 02 2011,01:12)Go back to the op of this thread. God NAMED the male and the female “Adam” (Gen. 5:1-2). It was the man who named the woman “Eve.” But God named her “Adam.”Again you prove that you lack understanding in this subject.God called them Man as in Mankind. That word is Adam.That is why in your bible you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,14:34)By nature we are no gods Pierre. There lies the difference. Men or angels can have authority and in that way they may be considered as gods, but by nature they are no gods.KathiIt is true that men and angels are called theos/elohim in an authoritative sense. But it is also true that we can partake of d…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,14:23)who was both the Father and the Son.Correction.”THEY were the Father and Son.”It sounds like you are referring to one person, but then address two. Hence the correction.
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
KJ, do you know the difference between the name of a species and the name of a person?My 5 year old knows the difference.I am sure that he knew the difference when he was 4, maybe even 3.You clearly cannot distinguish between identity and nature KJ. Yet I noticed that you didn't call me Adam. I guess you do not really have that much faith in your…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,13:35)Mike,You just need to know why Jehovah is the most high and the most high what. Then you will understand.Jesus is called 'son of the Most High God'.But the Father is not called 'Father of the Most High God'.Your understanding appears to not work with the above facts.
Proclaimer replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,13:33)Well Irene,I am concerned about helping you see that the church is referred to as a she. Can you admit this? We'll get to Jehovah after we finish with the church/she topic. You can drag it out or not, I am still going to discuss this with you because I believe that you are not correct on your opinion th…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Archaeologist sees proof for bible in ancient wall in the forum Archaeology & Biblical History 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Stu @ July 30 2011,01:09)Would you predict, given you claim that the commonality of the DNA code implies common design not common descent, that the same job should be expected to be done the same way in different animals species?On the basis of it, it could be either.If I dissected a programs code and say 45% or 95% of the code was the same…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic atheists futility in trying to convert Christians, in the forum Faith 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Stu @ June 20 2011,18:27)You know I'm not going to watch it Ed.Perhaps that shows you the futility of trying to talk me out of something that is not a goal of mine anyway.StuartYes it is hard to see when you head is buried in the sand.Let's pretend that everything wasn't preceded by God, Nothing, or Something. That way we don't have to face…[Read more]
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