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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 19 2011,21:10)I am not digging a hole for myself. You are showing that you do not understand essence.Sorry, but I measure 2 more feet down after your last post.

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    KJ, your dreaming once again. Time to awake from the slumber.If Adam wasn't an individual before Eve, then what was he? :laugh:And one of the meanings of individual is “A person considered alone, rather than as belonging to a group of people”.You are so blind when it comes to language that talks about a person/individual and  nature. That includes not…[Read more]

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    KJ is not answering because he knows he lost this debate.But he is not man enough to admit it.It is best to be humble and honest and admit when you are wrong KJ. Why? Because it helps others out.I am going to challenge you to a new debate soon. You haven't finished with me yet.

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    KJ, you can identify nature/species, and you can identify individuals. You can identify anything. A mountain, a car, a bank, and a brand. You can even identify good and bad quality. Where you trip up KJ is pretty obvious to most to see, but for some reason you are either blind or stubborn, but which ever it is, the effect is the same. You would no…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 2 months ago

    “I am” is a translation from Greek words “ego eimi”. Is the mere utterance of “ego eimi” a blasphemy? Does the use of “ego eimi” automatically identify the speaker as Yahweh?Gabriel said, “Ego eimi Gabriel.” In John 9:9, the blind man whose sight was restored by Jesus said, “Ego eimi.” In Acts 10:21, Peter said, “Behold, ego eimi (I am) he whom ye…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 19 2011,05:07)Show where God called the woamn “Eve.” It explicitly says that the man named her “Eve.” God named them both “Adam.”And God called them (the male and the female) “Adam” (Genesis 5:1-2).You show your comtempt for the word of God. KJGod called the race/species, man.God then gave Adam the authority to name…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2011,12:22)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 18 2011,19:10)His predacessor Joshua could not give the people rest (Heb. 4:8). But Christ IS rest (Colossians 2:17).Oh.  And “rest” = “God Almighty”?  :)  What scripture teaches us this?Yeah, where does it say that in those scriptures.I will tell you where. In your own head, that is where.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2011,12:19)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 18 2011,19:01)He was all those things MORE THAN His predacessors and not “just like” them.True, Jesus was more than those others.  But was God Himself ANY of those things, Jack?Was God ever anointed by anyone?Was God ever sent by anyone?Is God a servant of anyone?Is God a prophet…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 19 2011,12:06)How can Christ be the “reality” without being God? How can he be the embodiment of rest for our souls without being God?Hebrews says that His predacessor Joshua was unable to give them rest (Heb. 4:8). But Christ IS rest.KJSilly comment KJ.You are clutching at straws. No one who is serious about scripture…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 18 2011,19:33)We have been over this a zillion times too. Christ's predacessors were mere shadows and Christ is the SUBSTANCE (or reality).The shadows were only representations of rest but Christ IS rest and therefore God. Ponder this sonny.”Come unto ME all you who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you…[Read more]

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    KJ, can I let others comment here, or do you prefer me to close the debate?

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    I should also add that there are plenty of names that start with Yah, (I scraped these off Wikipedia: Yahashua, (Joshua) Yirme-yahu (Jeremiah)Yesha-yahu (Isaiah)Netan-yahYedid-yahAdoni-yahNekhem-yahYeho-natanYeho-chananYeho-shuaYeho-tzedek.There are names with theos…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2011,04:56)t8And what if someone has the name Adam then that means they are Adam and adam, right?Now listen and learn.Jesus shares the “Name of God”, Matt 28:19.Therefore Jesus is God both in nature and in name!WJWJ.People have the Jesus as a name do they not.Are they Jesus?See that. Of course they are Jesus, but…[Read more]

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    It really takes a lot of faith to believe that nothing can do anything.In fact it takes misinterpretation to believe that, because anything that can do something is by any definition, not nothing.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,23:07)Mike,Many can be called gods because someone or something is being worshiped.  That is not by God's design, he is against this.Explain, “ye are gods, you are all sons of the Most High God”.And:“All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols–worship him, all you gods!”

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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2011,05:25)CharlesQuote Sometimes you surprise me !!All I am going to do is to paste what I posted so you can read it againIf Adam did not sin, all creation, I repeat, all would have been clean throughout, and also it would have been  a complete different story altogether. This for the simple reason that we, as off…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2011,12:31)Quote (michael777 @ Aug. 02 2011,19:01)There were people living on the Earth when they were put into the garden. This is how Cain could go out and find a wife. He married someone who was not of the Jewish lineage, or those of the sixth day creation.Hi Michael,I have pondered this myself hard and long.  I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,04:43)You can especially notice them who put up very angry sounding posts and then those who agree with those who put them up.  Bitterness leaks from their words.  Do they think no one notices?Blessings,KathiPeople are noticing this from you Kathi.

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    The end result of KJ's stance on this is that we are all named Adam.Whereas, it is obvious that we are named uniquely and our nature/type is named adam.Anyhow, I hope you are doing OK Adam, and Adam too. Also, Adam should be more respectful toward Adam, and Adam needs to listen more.That is my 2 cents worth.What do you say Adam? What do you think…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Aug. 03 2011,17:55)t8 needs an analogy because his form of creationism depends upon making a false analogy.Why do we need climate models to understand the real climate?Might have something to do with trying to understand something beyond our level of understanding by making it analogous to our level of understanding.The alternative is…[Read more]

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