Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2011,12:00)So t8, What is different about the theos you think you will be and the theos that Jesus is?Show me scriptures to back up your claims, thx.That is not the point LU and going down this road doesn't sort out the issue.The point is that if it was said of Jesus (ye are theos), you would be all over that verse as…[Read more]

Apologies.CUTCompound Unity Thingy.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2011,11:08)Why do you suppose that the early church father's didn't claim equality with Jesus but rather worshiped Him?   Why doesn't Revelations or the letters of the apostles tell us that the follower's of Christ are going to be gods?Figure it out for yourself.”Ye are theos, ye are all sons of the Most High God.”The…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2011,11:08)Well t8, I don't think I have seen anyone say they were equal to Jesus but that is what you seem to be claiming.Well LU.If you misunderstood me here, then it is entirely possible that you misunderstand others including Jesus and the Psalmist whom he quotes and obviously endorses.I will explain it in simpler…[Read more]

Actually this scripture is used by Trinitarians as a proof verse because Jesus is said to be the glory of God. Of course we simpletons know that Jesus didn't take the credit for what God has done, even though he is the image of God. And we know that if the woman is the glory of the man, then she is also not the man that she is the glory…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,22:59)It seems that t8 believes that there is a supreme God and many gods, one of the gods being Jesus.  We know that Jesus said to believe in Him as well as the Father.  Since t8 doesn't believe in God as a compound unity, that would make him out to be a polytheist by definition.Whatever you believe about me LU, y…[Read more]

Move over Einstein.——————–Particles found to break speed of light, challenging laws of physics.Maybe Einstein was wrong about a personal God too?Nevertheless, even if he is wrong about the speed of light, he is still brilliant.An international team of scientists says it has recorded sub-atomic particles travelling faster than light -…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 23 2011,01:18)T8………..first of all you don't chose to follow GOD< He choses You and By His spirit (intellect) He "DRAWS" you to him it is by revelation into you mind about Christ that draws you to him. Remember " no man can come unto me except the Father draw him".But we still have to choose God.If God draws us,…[Read more]

But Gene, your definition of soul as a combination of parts can only mean that you teach that we the soul are the whole being.If the soul is the whole being, then when we get a new spirit and a new body, then all the parts are replaced, and so why is it that we are not replaced?Why is it that scripture talks of salvation of our souls rather than…[Read more]

Well like I said Stu, “I just don't see any evidence of a great spirit, a deep search, or sound conclusions from your words Stu.” But feel free to stand by your words that is your choice alone to make. It is not illegal to be mediocre or shallow.Some of the points you stand next however says stuff that I do not even claim.I am not making the claim…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,14:59)t8,It seems like you have a religion that you can add to the list…one God and one god for instance.Let me reword that for you.One who is the God/Theos. (The Father), andmany who are described as theos. (Scripture and Jesus says so, not me, I merely repeat).Just like there is one Devil (Satan), and many who…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 22 2011,16:31)T8………..Yes I do see your point and from that stand point you would be right, However our DNA contains all our working Mental Characteristics and Personalities and when it is recreated it is has exactly the same Personality becasue personality is the result of our minds created after conception.OK,…[Read more]

Jean-Jacques RousseauTranquility is found also in dungeons; but is that enough to make them desirable places to live in?The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society.Money is the seed of money, and the first guinea…[Read more]

Without going through this whole topic Kathi, is the following the only verse left that you think is a candidate for Jesus claiming to be YHWH using ego-eimi?Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”Or are there still others in your mind?

Dunno. I just know it wasn't me.Even a Google search doesn't give the answer immediately.

Is God Almighty One?  Two?  Or Three?I think the question should be  Is God Almighty One?  Two?  Three, Four, or Five?It use to be One or Two, but the Binity evolved into the Trinity. So then it was One or Triune.But now that there is a Binity supporter, it might be better to cater for possible future Gods that might include four or five…[Read more]

Stu, I am not trying to say that Albert is my brother, or that we are the same.I am proving that you cannot use him to back up what you have been saying on HN that is all.Hence the points I made.I also point to differences I have with his outlook on life, but make the point that he was passionate with his search for truth in the places he was…[Read more]

Stu, we are both represented in this quote:“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.” You are the former and myself the latter.

Face it Stu.This quote surely represents you.“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” I love both, so I am not included in this statement.Don't bother trying to wriggle out Stu. You have been cornered. Just admit it or at the very least say nothing and take it quietly.