Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:54)T8……….Jesus also said for thou art the “ONLY” TRUE GOD” .but i do agree with you there are many Gods but to us and Jesus there is only ONE TRUE GOD is the way i see it.peace and love………………………………………..geneAgreed.The Father is the one true God because all others including…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:49)T8……….I have no idea what you meant by that statement . I was addressing the idea taught by the trinitarians and Preexistences about Jesus' Preexistence as a living Being in some Mysterious preexistence state state , What does that have to do with Me “BEING” a Non-Existence? Now if you said does that…[Read more]

Not sure what you mean by your first sentence, but I see foolishness and blindness on both sides. Religious people who insist that the universe is 6000 years old for example, when scripture makes no such claim, and some scientists who say that is no God, but cannot offer an alternative explanation. Even worse than that, they haven't even thought…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:38)T8….> so what does this mean to you.Eze 11:19……..> And I will give them one heart, and I will put a NEW SPIRIT within you and I will take the stony heart (now notice T8) out of their “FLESH” and will give them a heart of flesh.Now T8 is it I who is saying God put a New Spirit in us, or God who says…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Further back in the same chapter is says this:1 Corinthians 15:22For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.Then after that verse it says:49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.The theme of the whole section of text here is Adam and Christ and the…[Read more]

Gene, I still see a major flaw in your doctrine.i.e., if we are given a new spirit, then we are not the same individual any more. We are being replaced by someone else.Because there is nothing unique about what man is in your doctrine, then that uniqueness is not transferred.You seem to be suggesting that rather than a new spirit, we are given a…[Read more]

“God allows us to experience the low points of life in order to teach us lessons we could not learn in any other way. The way we learn those lessons is not to deny the feelings but to find the meanings underlying them.”Stanley Lindquist“God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: It is His megap…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2011,13:10)geneQuote While we can inherit the “DIVINE NATURE” we will not Inherit a so-Called “Spirit BODY” which is also and OXYMORON> becasue no such thing exists as a spirit body there is only Physical Bodies with Spirits in them but Spirit has NO BODY.  IMOconfused ,confused,you are confused, but then you only have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 27 2011,10:50)T8………. Thing did change for Jesus his Body came back to life from the dead state he was in, it (his body) did not see corruption that we all know. And know matter what people say it was his original body that rose from that grave.And he walked through walls and was able to be translated to Heaven…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 28 2011,02:24)Here is something interesting. The scripture Paul is quoting at Hebrew 2:7….in the New Testament came from Psalms, 8:5…. and it uses the word “Elohyim” that is translated as “angels”….!….for thou hast made him a little lower than “Elohyim” and hast crowned him with glory….! Wow!! TKYes, elohyim which is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,02:04)Lest you fall into the same trap the Trinitarians and Preexistences have. IMOSo I take it that you are a non-existence then?

Quote (princess @ Sep. 27 2011,23:49)You consider anyone that believes in a god to be foolish,That leaves him with everything coming from nothing, which is impossible because if that were the case, there would be nothing now.OrEverything came from something, but the something had to have no awareness and no IQ. Even though it caused a universe so…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2011,04:33)Mike,Do you trust in many theos or do you trust in two theos?I can answer for him, after all he has told us enough times.He worships and trusts one God the Father.And I am sure that he has a level of trust for others.Some of them might even be called 'theos' according to scripture.It's easy to try and twist…[Read more]

Some thoughts Gene. Things did change after Jesus died and conquered death.At one stage the enemy had the power of death, but now when we die, we are present with the LORD.To demonstrate this victory, when Jesus died, the graves were opened.The dead in Christ rise first.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,14:11)Thanks guys but I did know that theos doesn't always mean God.  Of course all other 'theos' were not begotten that way…as theos, just the only Begotten God, and all others mentioned as 'theos/elohim' didn't have divine nature like HE was born with aside from His Father.  And also, all other 'theos' m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2011,04:50)Mike,Quote Nor did Jesus. (Acts 4)Did the Son of David exist in the beginning with God?Did the Son of God exist in the beginning with God?Unlike the son of David, the son of God existed as the Word that was with God. Many of the second century apostles described his origin as being begotten as like a fire…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2011,19:23)“The splendour of human life, I feel sure, is greater to those who are not dazzled by the divine radiance.”Bertrand RussellThat's rich coming from a man who was never dazzled by divine radiance.How would he know the difference if he only ever experienced one of those two points.He obviously had nothing but blind…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2011,19:01)

“It was of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly.  If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2011,19:01)

“It was of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly.  If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the…[Read more]