“God allows us to experience the low points of life in order to teach us lessons we could not learn in any other way. The way we learn those lessons is not to deny the feelings but to find the meanings underlying them.”Stanley Lindquist“God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: It is His megap…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 27 2011,13:10)geneQuote While we can inherit the “DIVINE NATURE” we will not Inherit a so-Called “Spirit BODY” which is also and OXYMORON> becasue no such thing exists as a spirit body there is only Physical Bodies with Spirits in them but Spirit has NO BODY.  IMOconfused ,confused,you are confused, but then you only have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 27 2011,10:50)T8………. Thing did change for Jesus his Body came back to life from the dead state he was in, it (his body) did not see corruption that we all know. And know matter what people say it was his original body that rose from that grave.And he walked through walls and was able to be translated to Heaven…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 28 2011,02:24)Here is something interesting. The scripture Paul is quoting at Hebrew 2:7….in the New Testament came from Psalms, 8:5…. and it uses the word “Elohyim” that is translated as “angels”….!….for thou hast made him a little lower than “Elohyim” and hast crowned him with glory….! Wow!! TKYes, elohyim which is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,02:04)Lest you fall into the same trap the Trinitarians and Preexistences have. IMOSo I take it that you are a non-existence then?

Quote (princess @ Sep. 27 2011,23:49)You consider anyone that believes in a god to be foolish,That leaves him with everything coming from nothing, which is impossible because if that were the case, there would be nothing now.OrEverything came from something, but the something had to have no awareness and no IQ. Even though it caused a universe so…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2011,04:33)Mike,Do you trust in many theos or do you trust in two theos?I can answer for him, after all he has told us enough times.He worships and trusts one God the Father.And I am sure that he has a level of trust for others.Some of them might even be called 'theos' according to scripture.It's easy to try and twist…[Read more]

Some thoughts Gene. Things did change after Jesus died and conquered death.At one stage the enemy had the power of death, but now when we die, we are present with the LORD.To demonstrate this victory, when Jesus died, the graves were opened.The dead in Christ rise first.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,14:11)Thanks guys but I did know that theos doesn't always mean God.  Of course all other 'theos' were not begotten that way…as theos, just the only Begotten God, and all others mentioned as 'theos/elohim' didn't have divine nature like HE was born with aside from His Father.  And also, all other 'theos' m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2011,04:50)Mike,Quote Nor did Jesus. (Acts 4)Did the Son of David exist in the beginning with God?Did the Son of God exist in the beginning with God?Unlike the son of David, the son of God existed as the Word that was with God. Many of the second century apostles described his origin as being begotten as like a fire…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2011,19:23)“The splendour of human life, I feel sure, is greater to those who are not dazzled by the divine radiance.”Bertrand RussellThat's rich coming from a man who was never dazzled by divine radiance.How would he know the difference if he only ever experienced one of those two points.He obviously had nothing but blind…[Read more]

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“It was of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly.  If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the…[Read more]

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“It was of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly.  If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2011,19:01)“It was of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly.  If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of…[Read more]

Paul writes in Titus 1:9:He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.Elsewhere we are told not to quarrel over genealogies and other pointless things.

I will try and spell things out a bit more from now on Kathi and not assume that you know what I am talking about. It should lead to less misunderstanding.I am not saying we are going to be called 'theos'. Where have I ever said that?It may be the case it may not. Remember, what we will become is a mystery, but all we really know is that we will…[Read more]

Psalm 82:6 uses the word is Elohim. Elohim mostly refers to the one true God, but can be applied to others. Then Jesus quotes that same verse, and in the Greek it uses the word 'theos', which is also mostly used for the one true God, but obviously not in this case. So we at least have a good example of a different use for 'elohim' and…[Read more]

Further reading about this result has some thinking the explanation is as follow, (in order of probability):Error in calculation.Worm hole or dimensional shortcut, (like to travelling from London to Auckland through the Earth rather than around).Correct calculation

A different or another topic Kathi. But feel free to post in the right one.The point is that they were theos.So with your understanding of theos, they would have to make the CUT right?Unless they were false theos. But he didn't say that, he quoted from the Psalm.”Ye are theos. Ye are all sons of the Most High God.”And if Jesus is theos and a son,…[Read more]