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    Quote (david @ Oct. 09 2011,17:56)“David…………You are using your JW Bible translation to support you false teachings of the Kingdom of God…”Gene, this is false and you know it's false because you know that the vast majority of Bibles translate it that way, and the few that don't, include the alternate translation in their footnotes.…[Read more]

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    The people of God believed only in ONE GOD and not three in one God…. in Paul’s time there was no trinity… It was in the third century that Constantine made it a Law…..1 Corinth.8: 6 is very plain about it, one God the Father…… AND one Lord Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 30 2011,07:31)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 30 2011,05:58)The people of God believed only in ONE GOD and not three in one God…. in Paul's time there was no trinity… It was in the third century that Constantine made it a Law…..1 Corinth.8: 6 is very plain about it, one God the Father…… AND one Lord Jesus Christ…..they…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 30 2011,07:31)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 30 2011,05:58)The people of God believed only in ONE GOD and not three in one God…. in Paul's time there was no trinity… It was in the third century that Constantine made it a Law…..1 Corinth.8: 6 is very plain about it, one God the Father…… AND one Lord Jesus Christ…..they…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 27 2011,09:42)t8,you said:Quote I see that your problem is not with Mike, but scripture itself.It is written:Isaiah 54:5“For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth.  Mark 12:35 While Jesus was teaching in the temple…[Read more]

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    Edj, I like the point made that seminary schools divide Isaiah into Isaiah 1 and Isaiah 2 as the former had no prophecy and thus was probably the original book, while the latter must have been a later addition as it talks about events that happened after the Exodus. The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that Isaiah was indeed one complete scroll written…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Oct. 04 2011,17:33)Therefore Jesus is God Himself in Flesh.Have you not read that the Word became flesh?Have you not read that God is not a man?Have you not read that God was in Jesus Christ, and that God can be in us too. Since when does someone become God when God is in them?

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    I should make it clear that I am not arguing for the non-existence of gravity, but the Gravity God theory. I shouldn't really have to spell this out, but will do it just in case people get the wrong idea.So what is gravity?Gravity is a law.A law is what a sovereign commands.A law is a rule or group of rules in a system.If people want to make a law…[Read more]

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    Quote the usual false analogy (gravity as religion)Stu you BELIEVE this. It is a belief and a belief that has a supporting system of beliefs such as Atheism is a belief system.With any belief system, you take some things by blind faith and more often than not, adherents to blind faiths cannot admit that they are adherents of blind faith.Let's…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 29 2011,18:31)I put my trust in gravity.  That is the higher power that produced everything, in the way I have explained.  You have neither explained how my explanation is wrong, and you have not produced an alternative explanation.It is pretty clear that you have nothing useful to add, because I have already answered you to a g…[Read more]

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    The glass is not empty. Yes empty of water maybe, but not empty.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 29 2011,12:03)T8………………if i am following you right you simply do not believe in a resurrection of our Bodies. Even though scripture say that we will witness the redemption of our BODIES. (ROM 8:23…..> T8, why witness the redemption of our bodies if our bodies are no longer needed.  and again this…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Quotes in the forum Chatroom 14 years, 12 months ago

    God is really only another artist. He invented the giraffe, the elephant, and the cat. He has no real style. He just keeps on trying other things.Pablo Picasso (1881-1973) Spanish painter.God hath entrusted me with myself.Epictetus (50-120) Greek philosopher.God is a circle whose center is everywhere and circumference nowhere.Voltaire (1694-1778)…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Quotes in the forum Chatroom 14 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 29 2011,05:58)“Atheism is a faith like not collecting stamps is a hobby.”AnonYou have to believe in no God and without proof.You can't face it that you have a a belief system with no proof Stu. You ridicule the very thing you practice that is the ironic thing here.And the difference between real faith and your faith is that rea…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:54)T8……….Jesus also said for thou art the “ONLY” TRUE GOD” .but i do agree with you there are many Gods but to us and Jesus there is only ONE TRUE GOD is the way i see it.peace and love………………………………………..geneAgreed.The Father is the one true God because all others including…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:49)T8……….I have no idea what you meant by that statement . I was addressing the idea taught by the trinitarians and Preexistences about Jesus' Preexistence as a living Being in some Mysterious preexistence state state , What does that have to do with Me “BEING” a Non-Existence? Now if you said does that…[Read more]

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    Not sure what you mean by your first sentence, but I see foolishness and blindness on both sides. Religious people who insist that the universe is 6000 years old for example, when scripture makes no such claim, and some scientists who say that is no God, but cannot offer an alternative explanation. Even worse than that, they haven't even thought…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,14:38)T8….> so what does this mean to you.Eze 11:19……..> And I will give them one heart, and I will put a NEW SPIRIT within you and I will take the stony heart (now notice T8) out of their “FLESH” and will give them a heart of flesh.Now T8 is it I who is saying God put a New Spirit in us, or God who says…[Read more]

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    Hi Kerwin,Further back in the same chapter is says this:1 Corinthians 15:22For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.Then after that verse it says:49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.The theme of the whole section of text here is Adam and Christ and the…[Read more]

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    Gene, I still see a major flaw in your doctrine.i.e., if we are given a new spirit, then we are not the same individual any more. We are being replaced by someone else.Because there is nothing unique about what man is in your doctrine, then that uniqueness is not transferred.You seem to be suggesting that rather than a new spirit, we are given a…[Read more]

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