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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Ding ding. Bring it on.:laugh:

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 17 2011,21:02)Hi Ed,And since God failed at his plan, his only option was to have the Hebrews go in and murder everyone there.Is that how it happened?TimTim, when you weed a garden, do you think that the weeds call you evil because you are removing them so other plants can grow.It is not wrong for God to kill after all he…[Read more]

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    Quote (charity @ Nov. 17 2011,07:15)FEMALES NOT ALLOWED?God made man, male and female.Man means mankind.Eve was man for example.It just happens that the female sex of mankind has a title called woman to distinguish her. I suppose had males been given aq special title, then some would complain about that too.

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 17 2011,05:15)Hi Ed,If I worked to produce or build something for myself,then I get to decide that it is rightfully mine.And God is the builder of all things.At most we build out of what God owns.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,04:02)You called me a Coward, O really I have PERSONALLY BEAT IN A REAL FIST FIGHT THE PERSON WHO STILL HOLDS THE WORLDS CONSECUTIVE HEAVY WAIT KNOCK OUT RECORD, 28 STRAIGHT KO'S, I'll bet you can't even name Him, here is a Hint he fought Mohammad Allie in Japan and Allie won on a split decision. Trust me…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 15 2011,06:09)The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; “but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God”. John 10:33There you go again siding with the Jews who claimed Jesus was saying he was God.Read the full story and read Jesus defense against this…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 15 2011,06:23)Quote (t8 @ July 10 2011,18:47)I believed in that doctrine once and have no problem admitting I was wrong. t8 So you exchanged the Jesus you first recieved for another Jesus?HMMM! That sounds familiar! What does the scriptures say about that besides where it says “they went out from among us because…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 13 2011,03:32)Quote (t8 @ July 07 2011,17:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2011,03:34)This is your model…Son of man = adamSon of God = theosYou see the deception in that you say the word “God” = “theos”?If you were not trying to deceive you would write…Son of God = Theos.WJ, you truly lack understandi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 19 2011,00:57)ONE CANNOT HAVE 2 POINTS OF ORIGIN. .”. The word for ‘origin’ is also used in Matthew 1:1. There, too, it refers to Jesus’ ancestry as being human – his origin because of his line of descent through David to Abraham. Yet logically Jesus only comes into actual existence at the end of that line –his con…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,18:53)t8,This is an example of what I said about your making us bothh repeat things. Jesus called the Father His God but NOT His Lord. The word “God” was just a reference to His covenantal relationship with his Father.SHOW WHERE GOD IS EVER CALLED CHRIST'S “LORD” IN THE SCRIPTURE.We have gone over this…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:27)I guess you will not get it through your thick head! I have lost nothing! Again, I am not here to win! I did give an answer! You just do not agree with my answer!I will put it this way Frank.When you cannot answer a serious or logical question that poses a threat to your doctrine, then do not be surprised…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2011,07:24)Also Frank,Can you show me any NT verses that tell us that the Father is the bridegroom or the husband of the redeemed?Thanks,KathiKathi, is that scripture talking about Israel or the Church?I know that Jesus didn't die for Israel but for all and God dealt with Israel by sending prophets then finally his son…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2011,07:22)Frank,But I never said that He was His own Father.  There are two persons that are called Yahweh.  The Father gave His Son His own name.  Many fathers do that even now.  Do you have a Frank Jr.?John 17:11″I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, …[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:17)Kathi, thought should know that the bridegroom that is coming for the church is the Son, Yahweh.”? That is ridiculous and very untrue! No, the son is not Yahweh! The son is Yahshua and his and our Father's Name is Yahweh. Any simpleton knows that one can not be their own father and that one can not be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:06)t8,I am not hear to “win a debate”! When are you going to get this through your thick head?Frank, the fact that you cannot give an answer as to what you believe when you are challenged in and out of season, shows that your doctrine is found wanting.Anyone can create a doctrine and ignore all opposition to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,12:10)Pierre,I certainly did not loose anything with the likes you!   :DYou have lost something Frank.You have lost the plot.If you were able to continue dialogue on certain scriptures and points made here, then you would be on track.But you have ignored these threats to your doctrine and resorted to name…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,11:11)Just another fool to add to my future ignore list!  :DHi Frank.You may not be aware of the rules of these forums, but we do not allow abuse, judgement, and unfair labelling others. Such behaviour can result in a penalty square.What we want to see instead is good debate on scripture and if you want to attack…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2011,03:17)Frank………….Continue to post and ignore those who are provoking you here Just don't respond to their ignorant behaviors, that only serves their real purposes to remove people who disagree with them from this siteUnfair comment Gene and shows that your assessment of things can be flawed.You were…[Read more]

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    Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 14 2011,22:00)Hi T,Who taught men to go to war and kill other people in order to take from them what is rightfully theirs?Exd 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother,…[Read more]

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    Half truth (lie): Jesus is God Almighty.Full truth: Jesus is the son of God the Almighty.Removing 'the son of' turns the truth into the lie. A truth that many are trying to dispel. But the gates of hell cannot prevail against this truth.Peter said, “You are the Christ and the son of the living God”.Jesus said, “Upon this rock I will build my…[Read more]

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