Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 15 2011,06:23)Quote (t8 @ July 10 2011,18:47)I believed in that doctrine once and have no problem admitting I was wrong. t8 So you exchanged the Jesus you first recieved for another Jesus?HMMM! That sounds familiar! What does the scriptures say about that besides where it says “they went out from among us because…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 13 2011,03:32)Quote (t8 @ July 07 2011,17:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2011,03:34)This is your model…Son of man = adamSon of God = theosYou see the deception in that you say the word “God” = “theos”?If you were not trying to deceive you would write…Son of God = Theos.WJ, you truly lack understandi…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 19 2011,00:57)ONE CANNOT HAVE 2 POINTS OF ORIGIN. .”. The word for ‘origin’ is also used in Matthew 1:1. There, too, it refers to Jesus’ ancestry as being human – his origin because of his line of descent through David to Abraham. Yet logically Jesus only comes into actual existence at the end of that line –his con…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,18:53)t8,This is an example of what I said about your making us bothh repeat things. Jesus called the Father His God but NOT His Lord. The word “God” was just a reference to His covenantal relationship with his Father.SHOW WHERE GOD IS EVER CALLED CHRIST'S “LORD” IN THE SCRIPTURE.We have gone over this…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:27)I guess you will not get it through your thick head! I have lost nothing! Again, I am not here to win! I did give an answer! You just do not agree with my answer!I will put it this way Frank.When you cannot answer a serious or logical question that poses a threat to your doctrine, then do not be surprised…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2011,07:24)Also Frank,Can you show me any NT verses that tell us that the Father is the bridegroom or the husband of the redeemed?Thanks,KathiKathi, is that scripture talking about Israel or the Church?I know that Jesus didn't die for Israel but for all and God dealt with Israel by sending prophets then finally his son…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2011,07:22)Frank,But I never said that He was His own Father.  There are two persons that are called Yahweh.  The Father gave His Son His own name.  Many fathers do that even now.  Do you have a Frank Jr.?John 17:11″I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, …[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:17)Kathi, thought should know that the bridegroom that is coming for the church is the Son, Yahweh.”? That is ridiculous and very untrue! No, the son is not Yahweh! The son is Yahshua and his and our Father's Name is Yahweh. Any simpleton knows that one can not be their own father and that one can not be…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 17 2011,07:06)t8,I am not hear to “win a debate”! When are you going to get this through your thick head?Frank, the fact that you cannot give an answer as to what you believe when you are challenged in and out of season, shows that your doctrine is found wanting.Anyone can create a doctrine and ignore all opposition to…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,12:10)Pierre,I certainly did not loose anything with the likes you!   You have lost something Frank.You have lost the plot.If you were able to continue dialogue on certain scriptures and points made here, then you would be on track.But you have ignored these threats to your doctrine and resorted to name…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,11:11)Just another fool to add to my future ignore list!  Hi Frank.You may not be aware of the rules of these forums, but we do not allow abuse, judgement, and unfair labelling others. Such behaviour can result in a penalty square.What we want to see instead is good debate on scripture and if you want to attack…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2011,03:17)Frank………….Continue to post and ignore those who are provoking you here Just don't respond to their ignorant behaviors, that only serves their real purposes to remove people who disagree with them from this siteUnfair comment Gene and shows that your assessment of things can be flawed.You were…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 14 2011,22:00)Hi T,Who taught men to go to war and kill other people in order to take from them what is rightfully theirs?Exd 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother,…[Read more]

Half truth (lie): Jesus is God Almighty.Full truth: Jesus is the son of God the Almighty.Removing 'the son of' turns the truth into the lie. A truth that many are trying to dispel. But the gates of hell cannot prevail against this truth.Peter said, “You are the Christ and the son of the living God”.Jesus said, “Upon this rock I will build my…[Read more]

OK, Frank, I think you have officially lost the plot.You are now ranting, and that is after some here asked you some intelligent and well thought out questions regarding certain scriptures.Because you cannot answer them, and because you stick to your teaching regardless of the questions and scriptures posed to you, then it appears that we have no…[Read more]

Kathi you are aptly demonstrating how a personal doctrine or biased view can colour nearly all scripture or physical evidence toward your own doctrine. This is perhaps the biggest cause of false doctrine on the planet.The Trinity, Oneness, Evolution, and Atheism, all work this way. They have to accept the doctrine first, before they can make all…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2011,12:22)t8,The 'ego eimi' does not have a direct object and that makes it significantly different than the other times.  You don't seem to see that it makes a difference.Kathi, if they asked if he was Jesus of Nazareth, and 'I am' is a sufficient answer if you wish to reply with a yes.If you think that 'I am' on its…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2011,13:55)Asking one to explain their understanding of scriptures is not harassment, Frank.Actually it might be harassment if you have something to hide or are not willing to be challenged. Of course if we are students of Christ then we are a student of truth and we would expect such people to be able to give an answer…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2011,01:25)Frank4Yahweh………………..Welcome brother, you have rightly spoken the truth here, it is refreshing to see others understand this truth also. Indeed Jesus did not Preexist his berth on this earth, He only existed in the mind and will of GOD and was the Prophesied Messiah to come by Moses and others…[Read more]

Yes Mike. A simple case of not reading all the facts. Conclusions can be very different when you select only part of the story.E.g., “There is no God” is very different to “the fool has said in his heart, there is no God”.