Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,09:56)t8,Nowhere in Scripture does it ever teach “Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” This is nothing but a foolish, false, deceptive, and demonic doctrine of mere men and a twisting of Father Yahweh's prophetic inspired word.Frank the very thing you deny is written in the very…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,06:51)Yahshua The LightBy Voy Wilks5/14/02Yahshua the Messiah is indeed referred to as the light of the world (John 1:7-9; 8:12; 9:5; 12:35; Luke 2:32). Does this mean he pre-existed?John the Baptist came as a light to bear witness to a greater light (St. John 1:7-9).”… a burning and a shining light” (John…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2011,00:48)T8………..If God created “EVERY THING” through Jesus then please tell us what part Jesus played in that process, you have explained what parts played in you explanations , So now tell us What Part Jesus Played, and if you can't then how can you make the claim…………………..Gene.What part did he…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 29 2011,17:21)Are you the wicketkeeper?Not the wicket keeper, I am the bowler who got you out for a golden duck.That is why I haven't bothered with continuing the game until you can walk off the field and wait for your next innings.The next innings by the way is when you can explain how everything got here. Otherwise you are not…[Read more]

Think of it like this Gene.If I preach through the mouse piece that this forum offers me, then is the forum software taking any of the credit for the words I speak or is merely the vessel that I use to speak?Likewise, God created us through our parents and all things were made through Jesus Christ.The head of the woman is man, the head of the man…[Read more]

Wrong.You were created through your mother. Without your mother and father, you would not be here.Would you like me to point you to a website that explains this?

Good comments.I was also taken back by that preachers honesty. I think he has a really important message for his people.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 29 2011,10:47)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2011,00:53)It is a fact that humans are on top of the intelligence ladder………….  Have it your way, Stu.  Just don't forget that it was you who recently said, “We don't know how life started”.Don't you suppose that SOMEBODY does?Hey if he doesn't know then no one else could p…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2011,17:32)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 28 2011,14:54)Even that faith in his own intellect leads him to the most foolish of conclusions, that nothing caused everything.There was a Big Bang and the universe unraveled.0 became 1 then 2 and so on.Magic.Show me the math Stu.I just want to see a demonstration on how zero can become another…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 29 2011,09:57)Example, the incense of the saints which rises up forever is the prayers of the saints.Just like the smoke of torment RISES UP in the same way, which is the torment of the sinners – on earth.See that?Yeah I can see that.

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 29 2011,09:03)Bod and Mike, so do you believe then in this:Islamic Hell and UnbelieversKoran 98:1-8The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.Koran 22:19-22:23Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 27 2011,08:29)Ha ha that is so funny. You all believe in a literal lake of fire.Actually it is the same fire that will eventually destroy the heavens and Earth.Fire is one of God's tools used in destruction.All that is wicked will eventually be destroyed.The old order is passing.

OK, not sure why that is.Do you know of any links in the forum?

Agreed and it takes a great person to recognise their own problem and work toward fixing it, rather than playing the blame game.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 28 2011,11:29)Mike,The spirit of God is rational and therefore uses both sound in valid reason. If your argument is not based on the same then it is not from God. That is why I pointed out the flaw in the reasoning that led to your conclusion.  There is no sense in going further until the rationality of your understanding is…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2) NoGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgLet…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2) NoGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgLet…[Read more]

Sounds like Frank just confessed what we were trying to tell him.God creates through agency. He creates through processes he set up in the beginning. The keyword is THROUGH and yet it was still God doing the creating.If God made all through Christ, then it is necessary that he was there at the beginning.

His rocket ship was probably powered by sugar.