Wrong.You were created through your mother. Without your mother and father, you would not be here.Would you like me to point you to a website that explains this?

Good comments.I was also taken back by that preachers honesty. I think he has a really important message for his people.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 29 2011,10:47)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2011,00:53)It is a fact that humans are on top of the intelligence ladder………….  Have it your way, Stu.  Just don't forget that it was you who recently said, “We don't know how life started”.Don't you suppose that SOMEBODY does?Hey if he doesn't know then no one else could p…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 28 2011,17:32)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 28 2011,14:54)Even that faith in his own intellect leads him to the most foolish of conclusions, that nothing caused everything.There was a Big Bang and the universe unraveled.0 became 1 then 2 and so on.Magic.Show me the math Stu.I just want to see a demonstration on how zero can become another…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 29 2011,09:57)Example, the incense of the saints which rises up forever is the prayers of the saints.Just like the smoke of torment RISES UP in the same way, which is the torment of the sinners – on earth.See that?Yeah I can see that.

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 29 2011,09:03)Bod and Mike, so do you believe then in this:Islamic Hell and UnbelieversKoran 98:1-8The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.Koran 22:19-22:23Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 27 2011,08:29)Ha ha that is so funny. You all believe in a literal lake of fire.Actually it is the same fire that will eventually destroy the heavens and Earth.Fire is one of God's tools used in destruction.All that is wicked will eventually be destroyed.The old order is passing.

OK, not sure why that is.Do you know of any links in the forum?

Agreed and it takes a great person to recognise their own problem and work toward fixing it, rather than playing the blame game.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 28 2011,11:29)Mike,The spirit of God is rational and therefore uses both sound in valid reason. If your argument is not based on the same then it is not from God. That is why I pointed out the flaw in the reasoning that led to your conclusion.  There is no sense in going further until the rationality of your understanding is…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2) NoGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgLet…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2) NoGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgLet…[Read more]

Sounds like Frank just confessed what we were trying to tell him.God creates through agency. He creates through processes he set up in the beginning. The keyword is THROUGH and yet it was still God doing the creating.If God made all through Christ, then it is necessary that he was there at the beginning.

His rocket ship was probably powered by sugar.

Stu, your are living in a dream world if you think what you are saying is sensical.You demonstrate blindness aptly as you are unable to see the gaping holes in your belief system.

Just wondered what you thought of his message.I know it is a highly controversial subject.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,04:14)Yes Pierre,This is also what the Biblical scholar Barnes believes.  He believes the man of lawlessness is the Roman Catholic Church, and that the force that was keeping him in check was the Roman Empire.  Once it fell, the leaders of the church were free to set their bishops and such up as Gods themselves.I d…[Read more]

I don't encourage anyone to stay or go.It is up to them if they stay.So long as they don't break the rules.It would be nice if we had people here that were more about learning truth, than defending their own egos though.But I can't force that to happen.

I don't encourage anyone to stay or go.It is up to them if they stay.So long as they don't break the rules.It would be nice if we had people here that were more about learning truth, than defending their own egos though.But I can't force that to happen.

Did you hear the preacher at the end of the video?