The problem you have Frank and Gene is that John 1:1:51 is talking about the same IT.And it is Jesus.Please point to me the exact point where IT become a person or him in your view.Obviously the chapter ends with talking about Christ because that is spelled out to the point that you can't deny it. But if you go toward the beginning it also is…[Read more]

OK, so you are not against Jews per se, but you are against the idea of Israel, in spite of the bible saying otherwise.

OK, that is good enough for me.Jsut to confirm. You are saying that all those Muslims who hate Jews and want them eradicated are wrong and are not true Muslims.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 01 2011,08:42)T8,Again nowhere in Scripture does it EVER SAY, AND I QUOTE!: “”Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” Scripture simply does not SAY this and since it does not SAY this it must certainly be a perversion (twisting or wresting) of what Scripture ACTUALLY SAYS! You erroneously say…[Read more]

All things were made by/through him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Him = autos {ow-tos'} pronoun,  Definition:himself, herself, themselves, itselfhe, she, itSo as you can see it has a smaller chance on the outset as meaning “it” and a greater chance of meaning “him, he, etc”.So who is right here. Well surely other…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2011,18:29)That was t8’s bizarre analogy, not mine.Incorrect.Many Atheists believe that everything came from nothing, hence no God.I simply am asking how to demonstrate how starting with 0 you can end up with 1, 2, 3…And BTW, you have failed of course.Show me the math, otherwise no proof.You deny God and that leaves you w…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 01 2011,05:55)You see what I mean? There are no similarities when you are focused on those who want to do right and those who want to do wrong.I don't believe any Christian here feels the way they do in this videoOK comparing apples with apples BD, the only conclusion from your statement is that Muslims who persecute,…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 01 2011,05:47)The Nazis were also Largely ChristianI can't take you seriously BD with a comment like that.The definition of a Christian is not someone who persecutes, murders, or hates his brother or man. Such a man has no eternal life dwelling in him as Christ stated. A person who calls himself a Christian and murders…[Read more]

Stu answers questions where he can spend a few lines mocking what is written.And ignores all the logical arguments that shatter his belief in no creator.But as I have said before, he is the one who chooses what manner of man he is.If he wants to steer his ship toward the rocks, then we can only warn him of his impending doom.You can lead a monkey…[Read more]

Testimony of a Kiwi Atheist who experienced the afterlife.

So there it is Stu. Your attitude is I don't believe no matter what the facts.Not even someone who has experienced death will convince you or even make you think of the possibility. Ha ha. What a hard nut. I can see it now. You standing before the Judgement of God and telling those present that you are dreaming and they are not real. Hey maybe we…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,09:56)t8,Nowhere in Scripture does it ever teach “Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” This is nothing but a foolish, false, deceptive, and demonic doctrine of mere men and a twisting of Father Yahweh's prophetic inspired word.Frank the very thing you deny is written in the very…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,06:51)Yahshua The LightBy Voy Wilks5/14/02Yahshua the Messiah is indeed referred to as the light of the world (John 1:7-9; 8:12; 9:5; 12:35; Luke 2:32). Does this mean he pre-existed?John the Baptist came as a light to bear witness to a greater light (St. John 1:7-9).”… a burning and a shining light” (John…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 30 2011,00:48)T8………..If God created “EVERY THING” through Jesus then please tell us what part Jesus played in that process, you have explained what parts played in you explanations , So now tell us What Part Jesus Played, and if you can't then how can you make the claim…………………..Gene.What part did he…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 29 2011,17:21)Are you the wicketkeeper?Not the wicket keeper, I am the bowler who got you out for a golden duck.That is why I haven't bothered with continuing the game until you can walk off the field and wait for your next innings.The next innings by the way is when you can explain how everything got here. Otherwise you are not…[Read more]

Think of it like this Gene.If I preach through the mouse piece that this forum offers me, then is the forum software taking any of the credit for the words I speak or is merely the vessel that I use to speak?Likewise, God created us through our parents and all things were made through Jesus Christ.The head of the woman is man, the head of the man…[Read more]