1) The fact is that your point does not at all diminish the entity from being the HolySpirit. If you think it does, please continue…Edj, it doesn't diminish the entity from being Michael the Archangel either. 2) Thank you for admitting it has nothing to do with gender.Once again the candidate of the HolySpirit is not diminished. The FACT that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,10:25)Hi T8,1) Are you patience? Would you consider me prudence?    Do you not instead mean He had these things, the wording    you choose seems a bit selected and slanted towards your belief; Yes?2) So the word that was translated as workman, means a skill    rather than a gender, once again supporting my view; yes?3…[Read more]

I suppose the idea is that in order to win, you have to be strategic and try and cut of any chance that your opponent can say anything of value.Quite smart except that the shutting out the truth with such things is detrimental to the health of a persons faith in God.So the real loser is the one who tries to win an argument at the expense of truth…[Read more]

I suppose the idea is that in order to win, you have to be strategic and try and cut of any chance that your opponent can say anything of value.Quite smart except that the shutting out the truth with such things is detrimental to the health of a persons faith in God.So the real loser is the one who tries to win an argument at the expense of truth…[Read more]

I think that there is confusion here based on not distinguishing between attributes and persons.Attributes even objects are often called 'she”, while a person 'he'.Also a person reacts to things, while an attribute cannot.A person can feel delight. An attribute cannot.

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,09:20)Hi Mike,The bible says that “The Word” of the LORD came to them (meaning the Prophets),if we agree God's HolySpirit came to them, then God's HolySpirit is “The Word” of God; right?Why can't God's Spirit deliver the Word or the message to the Prophets. There is probably a reason why the Spirit and Word are different…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,09:15)Plus you've not addressed how Prob.9:1-6 apparently contradicts your belief here.Edj.I believe that wisdom is an attribute thus it can be spoken as a she. If I have wisdom, I do not believe that I am Jesus for example.The difference is that the name of an attribute can also be given to a person with that attribute.…[Read more]

Hi Edj.Correct it is brought forth. So as you said sorry, I am going to have to say 'sorry sorry' because brought forth is used in other verses when talking not just of things, but also to bring forth a child.The following verses use the same word (chuwl {khool} or chiyl {kheel}):Proverbs 26:10: The great God that formed all things both rewardeth…[Read more]

Quote Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,05:59)Hi Pierre,Proverbs calls wisdom a she,and the word “Spirit” is feminine.Yet these facts mean nothing to you, the traditions of men instead supersede.(Col.2:22) The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God blessEd JPIERRE,I w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2011,22:57)T8……> Man is also made in the IMAGE of GOD, your above, post starts off right and then drifts into speculations, ……………peace and love…………………………………………………………….geneGene. Here is my post again.Point out the speculations and I will in turn provide…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2011,22:57)When are you going to see that brotherWhen are you going to see that God made all through and for his son. It is written. We agree to this and you do not and there are scriptures that clearly state this. No speculation needed.I am looking at the whole counsel of scripture.If God made all through the Word…[Read more]

To the Greeks, the term Logos was used to describe the agency by which God created physical things. In short the Logos was thought of as a bridge between the transcendent God and the physical realm.Is it then a coincidence that Jesus (Not Logos in this case) is identified as the mediator between man and God in 1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2011,11:56)t8,The pronouns associated with “the Word” in John 1 ARE distinguished as singular masculine.  Do you understand this?  I mentioned it before, but you didn't reply.In other words, there is NO CHANCE that the Word is called “it”, because the pronoun “autos” is in the singular masculine form, making the Word b…[Read more]

Agreed Mike.He/She/It is not distinguished in Greek, but is understood by the context.So yes IT is possible.However, the context is the Word, so if we go for “It” then when it clearly references Jesus without using his name it is thus still speaking of the Word. So if the Word is doing things and being described as Jesus, then the conclusion is…[Read more]

Quote If there is no time, then there is no “god existed before the universe” because there is no such thing as “before”.Hogwash.Infinite is before and after finite.Think of infinity and imagine a slice of it called finite. Infinity is before and after it.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 02 2010,16:52)”Who created god? Nobody did!HA! What a moron. He insists NOTHING doesn’t have a cause, then he specially pleads an exception to his OWN insistence, that his god didn’t have a cause. He wants it both ways. He implies that scientists agree with him that his god is “timeless” or “eternal”. That is a religious p…[Read more]

OK, first thought for now is you are saying that Jesus was IN the Word.Is that correct?

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2011,11:03)In him(The Word) was life; and the life(Jesus) was the light of men.Hi Ed.Thanks for your reply.At least you didn't try to avoid my question and was straight up.I will think about what you have said and get back.

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2011,14:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2011,10:13)Hi Gene,t8 is asking when John stopped talking about God's Word and started talking about Jesus.  For example:Is verse 1 about Jesus?  How about verse 2?  3?  4?In which verse does John switch from talking about the Word to talking about Jesus?(I believe that's what he's ask…[Read more]

Come on Gene. Where does IT finish and Jesus start in John 1:1?Do you agree with Edj?