God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night.

Correct. He made the heavens and the earth and all that is in them.

And He made the stars as well.

Indeed.

God placed these lights in the firmament of the heaven…

Yes, that is the action. He placed them in the vault or firmament. The view is from…[Read more]

Everywhere else in the Old Testament, when the Hebrew word for “day” (יוםֹ, yom) appears with “evening” or “morning” or is modified by a number (e.g., “sixth day” or “five days”), it always means a 24-hour day.

That would make sense to all the verses when man existed and applied to man. It is rare that you would say day and not mean 12 or 24 hours…[Read more]

I don’t read denominational propaganda. Yes, some will contain truth. But I listen to people’s own testimonies, experiences  and understanding.

The true church is not a denomination. Denominations to me are divisions in the body that should not exist.

When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t y…[Read more]

Does the Bible teach that the sun was MADE and PLACED in the firmament of the heaven on day four of creation?  Yes or No?

It says:

 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky.

If I said to you let there be car lights  shining in your garage, would you start creating these lights? Would you melt sand to create glass and wire thes…[Read more]

Because God does not include a NUMBER.  For example, if God had said, “The FIRST day of your building the walls…” and “On the TWENTIETH day people will come…”, He’d be talking about literal days.

I see. So when day is mentioned on scripture, then it can be any length depending on context, but when it numbers those days, it switches to 12 or…[Read more]

Trump was right

Posting this to watch later.

But man had been created and experiencing 24-hour days (with an evening and a morning) for 2500 years by the time God related the creation account to Moses, right? So my point (as attested by the entire Bible) stands that any time God speaks to humans about a certain number of days, He is ALWAYS talking about 12 or 24 hour literal days.

Was man…[Read more]

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There is no such thing as “you are angel” or “you are rocket scientist”.  Give it up already.

Exactly. So if we ADD in an indefinite article to make the sentence work in English despite it not being there in Greek, then one can argue that you are an actual angel when that is not what was intended. See that? If i say that you are an angel, then I t…[Read more]

Peter’s statement has no bearing on our discussion, because we’re not talking about how God experiences days, but about what God means when He talks to humans about a certain number of days.

But man wasn’t created either. And you place the sun on day 4. Yet somehow, it is 24 hours despite the text not saying so. Makes perfect sense Mike. Lol.…[Read more]

Show us.  Find a scripture or two where God talks to human beings about a certain number of days, but God is really talking about a certain number of thousand year periods instead.  Is there a second witness to your assumption that when God says “days” to human beings, He is talking about thousand, million or billion year periods?  Or do you on…

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See my argument to Proclaimer on this subject.  It is 6 posts above this one.  In short, we don’t know how God experiences days, but Peter was certainly not trying to say that exactly every thousand years that go by on earth God counts as a single day in heaven.

Exactly. It is basically saying that a day to us is 24 hours or so. A day to him is…[Read more]

Chop, chop

Will do some chopping later. I haven’t read those questions. Which question is the most important?

The scriptures tell us that the universe was created (not from eternity) and that it will end (not to eternity).  So no, the universe most certainly does not have an eternal nature.

Anyway, enough pontificating.

Good. Because no one is saying this. Only you brought that up.

I don’t say that the universe is eternal. It could be though. An eternal God can generate an eternal universe I guess. But if I look at the size of the nown universe and especially if we understand that size,  then that shows the eternal nature of God.

A pizza in fry pan with a lid on top doesn’t show eternal nature. It shows a technically…[Read more]

The “eternal nature of the cosmos”?  Are you suggesting that the heaven wasn’t created, but is from eternity?

Didn’t say that, yet you quote it as if I did. Read what I said slowly please.

What do we learn from this passage?

That God created the heavens and the earth. Then these were set in the vault. So you can now see the celestial objects.

How did you come up with that figure?  The first day was a heaven and earth that was basically just a big blob of water – and then light.  The following days consisted of many more things than that.

Buy a powerful telescope look at the eternal nature of the cosmos. And wait for the images that will come in from the James Webb telescope. Also tak…[Read more]