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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
What you fail to realise Gene is that angels can come in the appearance of men.And we know that Jesus existed in the form of God, emptied himself and came in the flesh.You deny that he existed in the form of God.But we are simply believing that which is written.Give us one good reason as to why we should believe you over scripture.I don't think…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Haiti vs New Zealand in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 9 months ago
Hi theodorej. As I am not from the States, I am not that aware of the situation regarding crime in the USA.However, for me there was enough truth in what the preacher said when looking at Africa.Much of Africa suffers greatly and that is very sad. Even after receiving a lot of aid, the problems persist.Something needs to be done to help Africans…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 14 years, 9 months ago
False analogy does lead to false conclusions, but when we say that God created everything and you imagine that he wasn't smart enough to create processes in order to create everything, then that lack of understanding comes from you not us. Is not God the lawgiver. And is not the physical universe subject to laws.When man ignites an atomic bomb is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

Proclaimer replied to the topic testing in the forum Test Posts 14 years, 9 months ago
My next trip is likely to be Perth and the surrounding outback there.Would also like to check out that coral reef near Exmouth.Otherwise Alice and Uluru looks good too.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Haiti vs New Zealand in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 9 months ago
Actually I thought he was saying that generally the white man has helped the black man out in this area and the preacher was saying that they (the black man) should help themselves not need to rely on the white man for such things. He was saying the opposite thing to relying on the white man. He made the point that the lack of acknowledgement in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can something come from nothing? in the forum Creation & Science 14 years, 9 months ago
WIT, please feel free to add to the current list.A creatorSomething not livingNothingBecause you cannot add anything else here, I have then covered all bases.So then the process of deduction begins.But if my process is flawed, then you should be able to add point 4 to unflaw it.The fact that you cannot or haven't so far simply means that my…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,11:26)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2011,11:10)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:46)The word “WITH”, by definition, indicates TWO or more separate things that are in close proximity to each other. I believe Father Yahweh and His word are in close proximity to each other!Blow the trumpets.We have progress.And Jesus is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:46)The word “WITH”, by definition, indicates TWO or more separate things that are in close proximity to each other. I believe Father Yahweh and His word are in close proximity to each other!Blow the trumpets.We have progress.And Jesus is the Word of God.In fact the whole Book of John is about who Jesus is.And…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:30)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2011,10:28)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:19)Yahweh's word was with Him in the beginning and still is with Him and is a part of Him.For God sake man.Who in their right mind would concur with that logic.t8,Certainly not an illogical fool such as you!
Let me interpet that for…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Can something come from nothing? in the forum Creation & Science 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 14 2011,09:19)You've demonstrated with your last few posts that you still don't understand this – or that you don't want to understand it.I fully understand it.But having a belief in black holes to begin with doesn't negate good science or thinking as to their existence.If it did, then you to are afflicted because you do…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Can something come from nothing? in the forum Creation & Science 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 14 2011,09:19)Actually, I created this thread, so I am pretty sure that I know what the topic is.OK, so you concur that it is not about “Who God is”.And there is no point in making that an argument anyway, as I said before, arguing over who someone is doesn't eliminate that this person exists. Often it means the opposite…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:37)Mike,You big fool! Read the articles that I have previously presented!Mike says “Ahhh! I can't see! I can't see!” Try wiping the “Jesus pre-existed his birth!” matter from your eyes!Let me interpret what you are really saying Frank.Mike.I am in danger of hell fire in the context of calling you a fool.Read…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Further explanation of my above comment.Can only concur with that logic if the Word was someone or something else to God himself.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:19)Yahweh's word was with Him in the beginning and still is with Him and is a part of Him.For God sake man.Who in their right mind would concur with that logic.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Frank, WITH means accompanied by; accompanying: I will go with you. He fought with his brother against the enemy.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,10:19)Yahweh's word was with Him in the beginning and still is with Him and is a part of Him.That foundation is made of straw and is easily burned.No one says that their word is with them.When something is with you, it is something else by that very definition.If I am with you, then I am not you by that very…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Frank, when you call someone a fool, (especially in anger as you mention) you are condemning them with your tongue.Now you know your own heart and you know that you are saying this because you are angry.Be angry and sin not. But it appears you have not fulfilled the latter.There is a big difference in the context that you weild the word 'fool'…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 14 2011,09:57)Have you ever seen me anywhere in this forum saying “Yahweh was WITH Yahweh? I do not think so!The Word was WITH God Frank.And you say that the Word is part of God.Surprised that we needed to spell that one out.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2011,22:49)Therefore when we see a perfectly ordered salt crystal, we should think anyone foolish who does not believe that there is an invisible, intelligent crystal-maker who added the ions in PRECISELY the right order to make that obviously designed crystal….See how false analogy leads to wrong conclusions?Oh ye of…[Read more]
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