Hi Pierre.Sounds like Spanish. Masculine “o” feminine “a”.Also Frank, attributes are often attributed to persons.Jesus said he was the truth. And he is called the Word of God.Truth and logos are certainly attributes, but they are also titles given to a person.Even us humans have names that are often attributes.Many men and women in the Bible were…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 19 2011,10:52)T8 are you not found in the appearance as a Man also. It is  plain Paul is talking about a Past time and that Pastime was when Jesus was on this  earth. Paul was in no way relating to any time period before Jesus came into existence on the earth, that is clear if you understand what Paul's Point was, and i…[Read more]

Gene, Frank doesn't post anything from what I can see, he copies and pastes stuff.If I am talking to someone about a subject and a person has a different view, then I want to hear why they believe as they do.Too many Christians do not understand things and just parrot or copy and paste things, and Frank has not given any explanation to the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 20 2011,11:53)@t8 christ is equal with GOD. cant you read the verse?? Philippians 2:6Amplified Bible (AMP)6Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained,do you…[Read more]

Hi Jammin.God (Theos) is both the nature and an identity.Similarly, Adam is both the nature as in mankind (adam) and the first man Adam.The word Theos is used as God and most of the time is talking of the Most High God. Usually the definite article or context tells us so. Sometimes theos is used to describe others such as the theos of this world…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 19 2011,13:03)do not compare it to joseph bec he is a MAN! paul is not saying the term equal as a MAN! he says the FORM of GOD! Philippians 2:6Amplified Bible (AMP)6Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with…[Read more]

@ seekingtruth,And that is also mathematically sound as infinity can produce a zero result when you mix up the finites.But no number can be had when you start with zero. If zero precedes all things, then there would be zero now.I once heard a famous physicist say that there was no need for God because the amount of energy in the universe was zero.…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2011,09:44)If what you believe is Christ is the Truth and not Christianity then why do you seperate those who believe in Christ you call believers those who proclaim some sort of CHRISTIANITY in whatever form you said I wasn't a believer although I and every MUSLIM must know Jesus as THE CHRIST/MESSIAHBod, so long as a…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 19 2011,05:59)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,14:52)There is a foundation to the faith which is spelled out in scripture in a number of places. This foundation is absolute. Everything else is a variable.Name one absolute truth from Christianity that is unique to Christianity.  (In other words, belief in God doesn't qualify…[Read more]

I don't see a conflict with what I said and what you said Mike.I simply agreed that Jesus as a man is what and who God saved us with.If Jesus didn't have to become a man, then why didn't he show up as a spiritual being.I think that he partook of the flesh to do what the first Adam was suppose to do and as a man he was able to fulfill and redeem…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:57)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,19:54)Yes Christ has a body, but when he was with God as the Word, it is possible that he was like God a spirit and without a body.And what makes you think God doesn't have a body?  Jesus couldn't very well have been existing in the FORM of God if God doesn't HAVE a form, right?God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:42)And Jesus can't be the firstborn of EVERY creature if he wasn't even a creation until he was a human being. (Col 1) Nor could he have been the BEGINNING of the creation by God. (Rev 3) Nor could he have been created as the FIRST of God's works. (Prov 8)True that. It is more accurate to say that he partook…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:42)Angels ARE spirits. Are you saying they weren't created?Good point, but my guess is that their spirits we given by God, but that they also possess a spiritual body which is a created body.Yes Christ has a body, but when he was with God as the Word, it is possible that he was like God a spirit and without a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2011,19:49)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 18 2011,10:11)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2011,17:19)Hi WIT,You refuse to believe all the documented evidence.God blessEd JYou serve a false god Ed.  He does not exist, except in your head.  He has no more power over me than Zeus, Bacchus, or Santa Claus.Care to demonstrate otherwise?Until you d…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2011,19:49)You serve a false god Ed.  He does not exist, except in your head.  He has no more power over me than Zeus, Bacchus, or Santa Claus.Care to demonstrate otherwise?Until you do, please stop bugging me with the same evidence that even your fellow Christians find laughable.Although I agree with your last statement, I d…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 17 2011,10:20)If you are looking for pure conjecture on my part, then I can tell that I believe that consciousness is a fundamental quality of the universe like energy and matter. We all share a common consciousness, but it does not control us, or rule us. It just is.And yet you rule out a 'conscious mind' as being the…[Read more]

Perhaps Satan got a license to continue for an age when he deceived Adam and Eve.Had he not been able, then man would have defeated him and there might not be any room for him as he clearly lost to the Angels and was cast out.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,12:46)i agree with you jammin'   Jesus is not a created angel…He created the angels.1.  Jesus IS an angel of God, because he is a messenger of God…………..right jammin?2.  Jesus WAS created, because Paul says so in Colossians 1:15, and Jesus himself says so in Re…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,09:06)Why does God mention the word man in 1 Timothy 2 at all except to emphasize that Jesus in his role of mediator is a man?I think I have to agree here.It was the fact that Jesus was a man that enabled him to save man by in effect becoming the second Adam. As it says elsewhere, all in Adam will die, all in Christ shall live.

Gene, we believe the following text and you do not.Why try to talk us out of our faith and belief in what scripture teaches us.You are trying to turn people away from the truth.If I uttered these exact words below, you would contest them.Therefore it is you against scripture.You have a problem with scripture, not really us because we believe the…[Read more]