@ seekingtruth,And that is also mathematically sound as infinity can produce a zero result when you mix up the finites.But no number can be had when you start with zero. If zero precedes all things, then there would be zero now.I once heard a famous physicist say that there was no need for God because the amount of energy in the universe was zero.…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2011,09:44)If what you believe is Christ is the Truth and not Christianity then why do you seperate those who believe in Christ you call believers those who proclaim some sort of CHRISTIANITY in whatever form you said I wasn't a believer although I and every MUSLIM must know Jesus as THE CHRIST/MESSIAHBod, so long as a…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 19 2011,05:59)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,14:52)There is a foundation to the faith which is spelled out in scripture in a number of places. This foundation is absolute. Everything else is a variable.Name one absolute truth from Christianity that is unique to Christianity.  (In other words, belief in God doesn't qualify…[Read more]

I don't see a conflict with what I said and what you said Mike.I simply agreed that Jesus as a man is what and who God saved us with.If Jesus didn't have to become a man, then why didn't he show up as a spiritual being.I think that he partook of the flesh to do what the first Adam was suppose to do and as a man he was able to fulfill and redeem…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:57)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,19:54)Yes Christ has a body, but when he was with God as the Word, it is possible that he was like God a spirit and without a body.And what makes you think God doesn't have a body?  Jesus couldn't very well have been existing in the FORM of God if God doesn't HAVE a form, right?God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:42)And Jesus can't be the firstborn of EVERY creature if he wasn't even a creation until he was a human being. (Col 1) Nor could he have been the BEGINNING of the creation by God. (Rev 3) Nor could he have been created as the FIRST of God's works. (Prov 8)True that. It is more accurate to say that he partook…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:42)Angels ARE spirits. Are you saying they weren't created?Good point, but my guess is that their spirits we given by God, but that they also possess a spiritual body which is a created body.Yes Christ has a body, but when he was with God as the Word, it is possible that he was like God a spirit and without a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2011,19:49)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 18 2011,10:11)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2011,17:19)Hi WIT,You refuse to believe all the documented evidence.God blessEd JYou serve a false god Ed.  He does not exist, except in your head.  He has no more power over me than Zeus, Bacchus, or Santa Claus.Care to demonstrate otherwise?Until you d…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2011,19:49)You serve a false god Ed.  He does not exist, except in your head.  He has no more power over me than Zeus, Bacchus, or Santa Claus.Care to demonstrate otherwise?Until you do, please stop bugging me with the same evidence that even your fellow Christians find laughable.Although I agree with your last statement, I d…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 17 2011,10:20)If you are looking for pure conjecture on my part, then I can tell that I believe that consciousness is a fundamental quality of the universe like energy and matter. We all share a common consciousness, but it does not control us, or rule us. It just is.And yet you rule out a 'conscious mind' as being the…[Read more]

Perhaps Satan got a license to continue for an age when he deceived Adam and Eve.Had he not been able, then man would have defeated him and there might not be any room for him as he clearly lost to the Angels and was cast out.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,12:46)i agree with you jammin'   Jesus is not a created angel…He created the angels.1.  Jesus IS an angel of God, because he is a messenger of God…………..right jammin?2.  Jesus WAS created, because Paul says so in Colossians 1:15, and Jesus himself says so in Re…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2011,09:06)Why does God mention the word man in 1 Timothy 2 at all except to emphasize that Jesus in his role of mediator is a man?I think I have to agree here.It was the fact that Jesus was a man that enabled him to save man by in effect becoming the second Adam. As it says elsewhere, all in Adam will die, all in Christ shall live.

Gene, we believe the following text and you do not.Why try to talk us out of our faith and belief in what scripture teaches us.You are trying to turn people away from the truth.If I uttered these exact words below, you would contest them.Therefore it is you against scripture.You have a problem with scripture, not really us because we believe the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 19 2011,03:27)T8………..If you fear God then you would believe what Jesus Said right?. Where did Jesus ever say he has a “PREEXISTENT” Life, before his earth existences. and the scriptures you speak of were changes in many way a long time ago forcing the text, the very words you guy's hang on to are themselves…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 18 2011,09:53)I asked this question once before in a different way.  I asked, “Is there anything that Christians all agree on?”  The fact of the matter is that there as many versions of Christianity as there are Christians.There is one truth and that truth is not Christianity.It is Christ.Christianity comprises all the o…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 18 2011,09:53)Is there anything that Christians all agree onThere is a foundation to the faith which is spelled out in scripture in a number of places. This foundation is absolute. Everything else is a variable. Variables allow opinion in that scripture might not have enough information leaving some speculation and usually…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2011,13:24)Christianity is a hodgepodge of ideas about Jesus ChristIn fact all religions are a hodgepodge of ideas about Jesus Christ. Islam says this, Moonies, say that, Catholics say this, JWs say that. I personally do not hold any of them in high or medium esteem.What matters is not what men say, but what Jesus said…[Read more]

Thanks terraricca.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2011,10:43)Should I personally have to take mandatory arson prevention classes because I'm a white male?No because even though they might be the majority of people who do that, it still works out that very few whites are doing this. If it was say 25% of whites, then it might be a good idea.And anyway, who said that we…[Read more]