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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 9 months ago

    Thanks for your view keng.A good point about all coming from God and if we relegate some things OF God as being God, then we might was well say all things are God.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2012,17:22)Lucky for you t8 was able to answer the question correctly. The answer is both can be credited with installing the pool cover, the company and the employee.Why is this so hard for you to answer? Because you know it will bust your 'Jesus did not make one single thing' theory?Kathi, you are jumping to…[Read more]

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    KJ challenges me by saying that 2 Corinthians 4:4 is the only scripture that says or alludes to Satan being the God of this age.We have already given him other scriptures such as the ruler of this world being cast out, price of the air, do not love the world, or Satan offering high positions in the world to Jesus if he would bow down and worship…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 05 2012,10:52)You NEED for Him to be a God “in the same sense as satan” and you know it.Wrong dude.I don't need Satan to be THE God of this age. I only acknowledge that he is because scripture says so. I am simply aligning with that which is written.It is you who has an agenda and it is this agenda that warps your view…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 05 2012,10:52)t8,I have also indicated here that the two articles in John 20:28 are VOCATIVES addressed to Jesus Himself. “And Thomas said to HIM (Jesus) “My Lord and my God.”You totally avoided the fact that without 2 Corinthians 4:4 you have nothing in the new testament which says that satan is “hotheos.” Nada! Zilch!…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2012,09:54)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 04 2012,12:51)I'll tell you what this is all about. This is about Mike and t8 having their “hotheos” argument in reference to satan pulled from under their feet. If Paul did not call satan “hotheos” in 2 Corinthians 4:4, then there is no place in the new testament where he is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,13:06)T8……………It is amazing to me why you can't believe what GOD out of His own Mouth has Said , Satan is NO GOD, there is No “TRUE” GOD except the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, If you don't  believe GOD'S own Words I posted to you  then Believe Jesus Who s said “CLEARLY” “thou art the “ONLY” true GOD. Tell us T…[Read more]

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    WJ and KJ take the stance they do ONLY because Satan is called THE God of this world.They cannot handle the fact that THE God is applied to another because it shows that there logic for the Trinity Doctrine is wrong.Once they can acknowledge the different ways that theos and elohim can be used, then one mail pillar of their beloved false doctrine…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 05 2012,05:32)Pierre,You are a foolish man! You say that satan is a ruler in the place of Jesus and then have the audacity to call Keith a “deceiver.”Wrong wrong wrong.Wrong on all accounts.Call no man a fool.Satan is the God of this age.Jesus is not the God of this age, rather he was made both Lord and Christ.Back to…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess @ Feb. 04 2012,14:03)Where do you suppose God was, if there was no earth or heavens, then your God was not in heaven at the time was he?God exists outside of his own creation. Outside of creation is infinity. That is where an eternal God dwells. He also exists in his creation by his spirit, but of course does not dwell in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 01 2012,14:39)He took human form and wrestled with Jacob. Jacob named the place “Peniel” because “I have seen God FACE TO FACE” (in a veiled form).God can ride on the wings of a Cherubim and can be present in us. But God is not us and neither a Cherub.Back the Drawing Board WJ.

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 29 2012,03:15)The Jehovah's Witnesees and the Christadelphians deny that God appeared to men in the old testament. The “proof text” they offer is a partial quote from John 1:18 which in the KJV says,”No man has SEEN God at any time.”Who cares what the Jehovah's Witnesees and the Christadelphians believe in relation to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 04 2012,09:39)I hope you saw that thread before t8 suppressed it.False accusation.Since when has t8 suppressed any topic, that didn't break the rules. You cannot even give one example. Again, your foot is in you mouth. When will you stop embarrassing yourself?

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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2012,09:14)Hi T8,If there wasn't a time when satan was in control of the kingdoms of this world there would be no need for this verse…”And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD(YHVH), and of his Christ; and he shall reign for…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 04 2012,09:39)Mike and t8 can say that the Father is the only true God all they want. It's just lip service. It's satan who they really think rules the world.Mike and t8 believe this scripture and you do not. Simple as that.John 12:31“Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.And…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess @ Feb. 03 2012,22:59)What is an apatheist?Apatheism is not having a belief in god and couldn't care less if a god exists or not.Don't you mean apetheist?An ape who doesn't believe that humans were genetically engineered by a creator, rather mother nature who possess the IQ of zero did the work.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2012,08:36)The Judeo-christian god created the universe 6000 years ago.Scripture rules that out because our age (world) is only one of many that existed before.It says, in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth followed by a period when darkness covered the Earth at which point light pierced the Earth followed by…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2012,21:23)Hi T8,That would just lower the numbers like for example: 43%(Father) + 43%(Mother) +14%(Chameleon?) = 100% Entity.   …He he he he he God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWhat about conjoined twins.200% DNA or 100%.If 100%, then each person has 50% or 100%?OK, I am being silly now.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,07:50)Hi AllAnd Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and IN EARTH. Matt 28:18WJ, YHWH created the Heaven and the Earth. He did not create the world which is ruled by darkness and wickedness in high places.Nevertheless, the kingdoms of this world will eventually be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 02 2012,01:19)T8………..God is the God of the DEAD  and the living both or how can they be resurected ?See how your understanding is not right regarding the word God.The following scripture corrects and convicts you.Luke 20:38Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him.”To not be the God of…[Read more]

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