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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:39)“The Word” written in Rev.19:13 is NOT identified as Jesus?Jesus/Yahshua/??? was the name given to him when the Word was made flesh. Before that, the name/title was the Word/Logos.The Book of John is all about Jesus and revealing who he is.Thus it is fitting that it starts off as the Word was with God in the beginning.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:39)Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIf the sword of the spirit is the word and the spirit is the word, then the sword of the spirit must be the word of the word.Just saying.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2012,04:22)Hi , Why does anyone take any human religion seriously when they do not teach that you must be born again of water and the Spirit? Unless you teach entry to the kingdom what is the point of the rest? SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD…Amen to that.If the teaching on salvation is wrong, then even if all the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2012,02:09)Did you not see the answer in green that I posted straight from the JW website?  ???Any questions you have about the JWs can be answered on that website.  Then, AFTER READING THEIR OFFICIAL ANSWERS, if you disagree with one of those answers, or think they've got something scripturally wrong, bring that ONE T…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, I think there is one active JW in this forum, namely david.Many of us here have seen through denominations and prefer to recognise that the Church is the Body of Christ.It is after all better see the real Church which is the Body of Christ, rather than a Church Corporation complete with a CEO which is modeled after this world system.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2012,13:46)T8………..Please show us where Satan LIEDJohn 8:44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2012,12:35)Gene doesn't believe there is such a thing as “free will”.He chooses to not believe that there is free will.And other choose to believe that there is free will.So we have a free will that allows us to believe that free will exists. :D

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2012,07:39)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 09 2012,21:36)So it appears that Jesus is not adam in Heaven, but anthropos in Heaven.Hi t8,The Greek word “anthropos” refers to a “human being”.  There is another Greek word that distinguishes male from female.  Jesus is called by that word after he was raised, but never by “…[Read more]

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    Missed that one.Was there a big debate on free will or something?:0

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,03:55)Hi t8, Yahshua usually referred to himself as the Son of ManHe highlighted his human origins.One of us.That includes when he spoke of the final daysMt25.31″ When the Son of man comes in his glory…  The King will…”Paul discussed the nature of bodies distinguishing FLESH from glorious powerful heavenly…[Read more]

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    The invisible God appears in vessels.He often appeared through the Angel of the Lord.In the NT, the Angel of the Lord is not mentioned as such, but God appears through Jesus Christ as he is the image of the invisible God.God can even be even seen in creation itself. However, no man can see God.

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 09 2012,15:49)T8.Adam was the first man in the flesh.Jesus is the first man in spirit,He is the first resurrected in spirit,amongst his bretheren.wakeup.So is Jesus a man in Heaven?Yes, if you view that as a spiritual man.No, if you view that as a physical man.This is the real point I am making.Adam was created a physical…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Is Jesus ever called man/adam in Heaven?Just wondering.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:22)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 29 2011,10:21)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2)…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:22)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 29 2011,10:21)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,06:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2011,05:55)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,12:38)3) Yes(1)Please tell us all WHEN you found out then.  (2)Because you just got done saying you never knew anything about any family problems, right?Hi Mike,1) April fools day2)…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,13:21)Hi T8, Jesus is the second Adam. Both Adams have God as their father. The original Adam then fathered the subsequent human race. Jesus is the beginning of the new creation-new body, new Spirit, renewed heart and mind. All things have become new and the perishable old is passed awayThe question is, “is Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,11:22)Hi MB, We follow a man. We will be like to him when we are taken up.What will we be?We will be a “spiritual anthrOpos” not a “spiritual adam” according to 1 Corinthians 15:45-49 at least.If adam is the word for man, then is it also true that Jesus is the adam from heaven? Let's look at the word “Adam”.The…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 09 2012,10:45)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2012,17:39)I can't say that I have ever noticed the term 'heavenly man'.The term “heavenly man” is not in the Greek text.  Nor is “heavenly human”.Correct. It is heavenly which at least one translation says it as 'heavenly man'.The question I have though is it says that he is the man from…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2012,23:10)So produce a Scripture that says “Satan does what he wants.”Gene. Satan is the Father of lies and a murderer from the beginning. Who was the first to lie? Satan was. Who told him to lie? I doubt that anyone told him to lie, rather that he did it by his own accord.Jesus said “not my will but your will”.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,08:39)Hi MB 1Cor 15.45Thanks for that Nick.1 Corinthians 15:45-49 New American Standard Bible (NASB)45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47 The first man is fro…[Read more]

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