If we simply read with no bias about Jesus, then all things written in scripture about him have to be considered. A student of scripture does not pick and choose what he wants because you can almost prove anything with that method.I know as a photographer, that a good photo is often what is not in the picture as much as what is in it. I can take…[Read more]

Nick.We have to cater for all scripture, not just certain ones. It is easy to take the scriptures that talk of Jesus as a man, and apply this understanding to our experience as men, and thus apply a beginning when we are born or conceived.However, Jesus was obviously different in the sense that his Father was not earthly like our fathers.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2012,16:12)Hi T8,Did Yahshua speak the words given him by God?Yes and as a man he also would have said things like “pass the bread and water please”.The idea that he was a hollowed out shell and God was the only thing inside is absurd. Jesus even said, “Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me f…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2012,08:57)T8,Hebrews 1New International Version (NIV)1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. Looking at these passages it seems…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2012,23:28)T8………..Lets be truthful here do you or don't you believe Jesus was Morphed from some Past Life or not? You are  a staunch supporter of a Preexistent Jesus, and to deny that would be a false statement on your present position T8.Gene, let's get something straight before I proceed. I am a staunch…[Read more]

Of course I am willing to accept anything that is true.I just can't get over the idea that the sword of the Spirit is the Word and the Word is the Spirit and thus the sword of the Spirit is the word of the Word.Sorry but that is the truth. To me the truth adds up and the word of the Word doesn't add up to me.Anyhow we can discuss this further in…[Read more]

Jesus said, “before Abraham, I am”.I believe it and some others do not.Your choice. What more can be said?

Yes christos is the anointing and Jesus Christ was the annointed one, no one is disagreeing with that from what I can tell.That said, what does that have to do with Jesus existing in the form of God, emptying himself, becoming flesh, humbling himself, dying for our sins, and rising from the dead to be in the glory that he had with the Father…[Read more]

I have said this a number of times and no one can refute this because I am really just quoting scripture, albeit I have abbreviated it into my own words. Yet men here grit their teeth when I say this and it can all be shown as scripture.He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, partook of flesh, humbled himself, died, rose from the dead, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2012,11:10)Hi T8, We need strong evidence.You need strong evidence to teach something as truth. Very strong. But I don't throw away possibilities because some things are only discovered when one delves into scripture and bringing it to the light one can possibly prove it or disprove it by scripture.Nowhere in scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2012,13:00)T8………..Come on you do support the idea that Jesus was a “MORPHED” AngelWith a comment like that, it shows you are not listening to me. No point in dialog with you is there.

Yes I think it does stack up in what you have provided.It sums it all up in one piece of text.He was called a man, an angel, the angel, and was equated with seeing God.How many angels are called men, THE angel as opposed to an angel, and is equated with seeing God.Whoever he is, he is very special that much is for sure.

Let's look at this with some context.54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.56 Your father Abraham…[Read more]

I can't remember that, but I likely agree with you about the Kingdom of God.I too believe it is a kingdom of which God is the ultimate authority.What was it exactly that I disagreed with?

BTW, I moved this topic again.I put it in the Skeptic Debate forum, when it should be here in Believers Area.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2012,10:11)To all,If you test the hypothesis that Jesus is an angel against this scripture then you will see that it contradicts it.Hebrews 2:5New International Version (NIV)Jesus Made Fully Human 5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.Kerwin.The Angel of the LORD is the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 14 2012,05:38)Hi t8, The angel of the Lord is mentioned in the first verse but not the second. There is no suggestion that the rock they drank from was an angel.OK, but the Angel of the LORD was present, we know that much.There is also many similarities with this angel and with Jesus Christ such as the name and term…[Read more]

david.This is the first time I have seen this.I don't read all topics, but you could have alerted me via a PM.I can reply of you like.Regardless, I am moving this to the debate section.The Hot Seat is more suitable for avoided questions and is kind of like the Supreme Court where to take someone to task in the highest forum in the board. If the…[Read more]

God created the cosmos through Jesus Christ.Colossians 1:16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities– all things have been created through Him and for Him.We possess a will that allows us to freely believe this truth or not.I choose to…[Read more]

Like most denominations they range from holding themselves with the highest regard to being the only Church and the only ones possessing the truth.It is a disease and many are infected.The real Church is the Body of Christ and the members of the Church are those with the spirit of God dwelling in them.Denominations contain real believers to real…[Read more]