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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2012,13:06)Hi T8, You mean Jesus CHRIST?Jesus.Jesus Christ.Jesus the Christ.Jesus Christ of Nazareth.”Are you Jesus of Nazareth” he was asked.”I am”, he answered.All the same person.“What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are–the Holy One of God!”

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Obviously not all know the answer to what Jesus said here. “my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going”.I think we can all agree where he is now. That is, in the glory of God, at his right hand side, and also seated with the Father on his throne.Now think what these words of Jesus mean and think what you are really…[Read more]

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    Head lice could bite your whole head off.:D

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    Dunno about that size but gigantism was the norm at some point in  Earth's history according to the fossil record:http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2009….ll_time Snakes longer than a bus.Bull-Size RodentA frog as big as a beach ball.Scorpions bigger than humansEven plants were much bigger than today.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,10:07)in my understanding at this time their was no continents one section of water and one section was land,Genesis 8:2Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.If the land broke apart due to Earth inflation, then one could imagine…[Read more]

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    Hi terraricca. I will have a look at his other stuff.Is there a scripture that talks about the land started to break apart after the flood?I thought there was, but cannot find it.If it exists then the land breaking apart fits with continental drift, but also this theory.Also because it is too hard to check that the continents fit together when you…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Who is saying that the Father was NOT in Jesus and Jesus NOT in the Father.Who is also saying that we also CANNOT be in Jesus and in the Father and they NOT in us.No one is saying that, so it is not an excuse to use against myself and anyone else.But saying that the Father spoke through Jesus about himself (the Father) to get around certain…[Read more]

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    Michael Tellinger shows off what could be one of the best pieces of evidence that there were giants on Earth a long, long time ago. Geologists have marvelled at this giant foot print in rough granite, about 4 feet long. Some still say that it is a natural erosion pattern. Personally I find that suggestion highy improbable for various reasons that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”If that is God speaking about himself through Jesus, then God was sent to do who's will?If it is Jesus speaking in the name of his Father, then Jesus is obviously referring to himself.Hence it was Jesus who came down from Heaven, and he did say “I” after…[Read more]

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    Bod Gene is not talking about all. He is talking about what goes on in these Muslim nations.It would be obvious to assume that not every single soul is guilty and we also know that there are Christians who live in these nations.I met an Iranian Muslim here in New Zealand and he said to me that the day he arrived in New Zealand, he took a look…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Mar. 08 2012,22:15)I have a question for all NON Pre-Existancers…WHEN did you FIRST start to doubt that the Son came down from Above?I bet a few would answer, “when I read Anthony Buzzard”.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2012,21:58)Hi T8, Is it true doctrine to teach that a godly being lived in heaven and was sent to earth?It is true doctrine to believe that he existed in the form of God (existed with God's nature), emptied himself, came in the flesh, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of the Father…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Shimmer, I also think that the day is coming when many will understand the truth about the Trinity Doctrine.What will the result of that be? One thing I can say now is that if we do not challenge false doctrine now and let it establish itself, then we allow a new great evil doctrine to take its place. Ask any gardener. If you pull out a great…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Shimmer. I think it is really about what Jesus said about himself.He said, “my sheep hear my voice” and he also said, “before Abraham, I am”.In English when we say, “I think therefore I am”, to means that because I think, I exist.It can be used that way in Greek too.I think the greater issue at hand is whether we actually believe Jesus own…[Read more]

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    Thanks Gene.I will be honest and thought you were going to argue the opposite, (as you do) and thought this will be interesting.But you show that you have a good view regarding this.

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    Cheers Ed.I just watched it.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2012,11:51)Hi T8, But men err when they apply the predictable expression of creation to their GodMen err, when they throw away logic. God gave us the ability to follow logic. For example, three persons one God, all 100% God, but all the same God, who is not 300% God is the sort of result that occurs when logic is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Yes the Greeks loved their OWN logic.Nevertheless, this doesn't rule out that God is logical especially considering that logos is part of him. It is not about a lack of understanding, rather that we understand what it is that God is saying. In other words when we understand God's logic, and speak his logic, then the logos is at work in us.Is God's…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Taken from Wikipedia (logoc):Logic (from the Greek λογική logikē) is the philosophical study of valid ….. dialectical, argumentative”, also related to ] (logos), “word, thought,

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Sorry Nick I was editing the post when you replied.Do you think there is a link between logic and logos?Quote Taken from Wikipedia (logos):Originally a word meaning “a ground”, “a plea”, “an opinion”, “an expectation”, “word,” “speech,” “account,” “reason,”….Arguments from reason (logical arguments) have some advantages, namely that data are…[Read more]

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