Nick you clearly have a problem with this because the word angel and messenger are the same word.I don't have a problem with this.Jesus is called an angel/messenger at least once.Men are called angels/messengers on a number of occasions.It appears that you do not understand this. But it is a fact.I accept it and I am not sure how you reconcile…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2012,12:35)hi t8,2 Peter 2:11Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.There are ministering spirits to those in ChristYou still don't understand given this answer from you.You have a conflict. One scripture calls him an angel, and these appear to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2012,11:24)Hi T8, Mighty angels have become to those in Christ ministering spirits.How could he be a mere angel?That is for you to figure out Nick.I know he is called a messenger and I have no conflicts with that one scripture and all others.You appear to have a conflict with your theology in this matter. I tried to…[Read more]

If you read carefully you will see that my stance is that it remains a possibility. So that would mean that one verse is not good enough for me would it not?The comparison between the Messenger of the LORD and Jesus is quite striking and the fact that the Messenger of the LORD is special and commands angels more so. And the fact that men thought…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2010,03:24)To all……Back to the thread……….> the word I am has nothing to do with the word Lucifier at all. The word Lucifer means rising star as the king of Babylon was before God cut him down, It has nothing to do with an elusive (BEING) called a devil,or a Satan. Pure apostate teachings. There is (NO)…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2010,15:21)ED J ……….Martian is right the actual Hebrew is He Exists, not I am ,  for the word EVAH .  peace and love…………………..geneThe famous quote: “I think therefore I am” in English means, I think therefore I exist.

Quote (Stu @ April 07 2012,00:52)What a load of moronic nonsense.StuartThanks for the laughs Stu.Again this is all over your head.Advice: Try concentrating on something you are capable of doing.Do you like cooking, skateboarding, pottery… I mean there must be something you can put your time toward that is more productive. Have a think about it.

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:32)Quote (t8 @ April 06 2012,18:29)Beginnings have a cause.Says who?  You?Define cause for us, then explain how a cause of time could be possible.StuartOK, if a beginning didn't have a cause then it didn't begin it was always there.So that is the eternal something option. Is this where you are planting your stake…

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:20)In other words, t8's platitudinous uses of “nothing” and “god” don't even scratch the surface of the question of why there is a universe.Ha ha. I offered to debate you on this and you declined. I have asked you to answer which of the three options it is or to offer a fourth option and still you decline.You are in…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:20)Space-time inflated. It's not really an explosion.Oh no, not an explosion. Rather, inflation in all directions that is speeding up.

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,20:53)Quote (t8 @ April 06 2012,13:07)What preceded the Big BangWhat do you mean preceded?  Do you mean to ask what happened earlier in time?StuartNo Stu. What caused the Big Bang which includes time space etc.Ha ha. Your attempt to trap me makes me laugh. You are as subtle as a brick. Try walking on tip-toes next time.

That is true Devolution.They hate the idea of God first, and form theories with that bias second.We know that some people hate God, so it is all of no surprise and is to be expected.They hate God that much that they spend endless hours trying to refute what they equate to a white unicorn.He he. Why waste that much time on a belief that is equable…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,10:00)Hi t8, Jesus is called once a messenger and that is enough for you to build on? You really think he is the ANGEL of the Lord despite Heb 1?Nick if Jesus is called a messenger and the Messenger of the LORD is described as being different to the accompanying angels that are with him, then if you can't work…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2012,14:41)T8;Are you making the point that even if Scripture calls Jesus a messenger(angel) it does not mean he is a being composed of spirit?Hi Kerwin. No I wasn't making that point.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,13:56)Hi t8, Messenger=Angel.So to you the words are entirely interchangeable. So any witnessing verses that could call Jesus an angel?Perhaps heb 1?Nick. Scripture uses one word. That is what I am saying.This has a number of connotations that few have thought about.Just as a young girl was to conceive and we…[Read more]

The best way to judge a man's writings is to read his writings. I am sure that if I was worthy enough for others to write about me, that people would seriously misconstrue what I said. I know that because it happens here and I have been accused of teaching all kinds of things which I never intended for people think such things. Not to mention…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2012,08:52)John the Baptist does not PREPARE Jesus Christ.This is the only time Jesus is called the MESSENGER so any witnesses do not exist for developing theories he was an ANGEL.What part of messenger and angel being the exact same word in the Greek do you not understand. Is this fact really that hard to grasp? For…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,01:12)Hi T8, you got the story confused.The messenger of the covenant is Jesus.Malachi 3:1 mentions both, John the Baptist: the messenger that shall prepare the way, for the messenger of the covenant which is Jesus Christ the Lord.Edj.Are you joking with me? If not, then you are the one who is confused.This is exactly…[Read more]

Quote from Wikipedia:Origen excelled in multiple branches of theological scholarship, including textual criticism, biblical interpretation, philosophical theology, preaching, and spirituality. Some of his teachings, however, quickly became controversial. Notably, he frequently referred to his hypothesis of the pre-existence of souls. As in the…[Read more]