Quote (Stu @ April 07 2012,00:52)What a load of moronic nonsense.StuartThanks for the laughs Stu.Again this is all over your head.Advice: Try concentrating on something you are capable of doing.Do you like cooking, skateboarding, pottery… I mean there must be something you can put your time toward that is more productive. Have a think about it.

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:32)Quote (t8 @ April 06 2012,18:29)Beginnings have a cause.Says who?  You?Define cause for us, then explain how a cause of time could be possible.StuartOK, if a beginning didn't have a cause then it didn't begin it was always there.So that is the eternal something option. Is this where you are planting your stake…

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:20)In other words, t8's platitudinous uses of “nothing” and “god” don't even scratch the surface of the question of why there is a universe.Ha ha. I offered to debate you on this and you declined. I have asked you to answer which of the three options it is or to offer a fourth option and still you decline.You are in…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,21:20)Space-time inflated. It's not really an explosion.Oh no, not an explosion. Rather, inflation in all directions that is speeding up.

Quote (Stu @ April 06 2012,20:53)Quote (t8 @ April 06 2012,13:07)What preceded the Big BangWhat do you mean preceded?  Do you mean to ask what happened earlier in time?StuartNo Stu. What caused the Big Bang which includes time space etc.Ha ha. Your attempt to trap me makes me laugh. You are as subtle as a brick. Try walking on tip-toes next time.

That is true Devolution.They hate the idea of God first, and form theories with that bias second.We know that some people hate God, so it is all of no surprise and is to be expected.They hate God that much that they spend endless hours trying to refute what they equate to a white unicorn.He he. Why waste that much time on a belief that is equable…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,10:00)Hi t8, Jesus is called once a messenger and that is enough for you to build on? You really think he is the ANGEL of the Lord despite Heb 1?Nick if Jesus is called a messenger and the Messenger of the LORD is described as being different to the accompanying angels that are with him, then if you can't work…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2012,14:41)T8;Are you making the point that even if Scripture calls Jesus a messenger(angel) it does not mean he is a being composed of spirit?Hi Kerwin. No I wasn't making that point.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,13:56)Hi t8, Messenger=Angel.So to you the words are entirely interchangeable. So any witnessing verses that could call Jesus an angel?Perhaps heb 1?Nick. Scripture uses one word. That is what I am saying.This has a number of connotations that few have thought about.Just as a young girl was to conceive and we…[Read more]

The best way to judge a man's writings is to read his writings. I am sure that if I was worthy enough for others to write about me, that people would seriously misconstrue what I said. I know that because it happens here and I have been accused of teaching all kinds of things which I never intended for people think such things. Not to mention…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2012,08:52)John the Baptist does not PREPARE Jesus Christ.This is the only time Jesus is called the MESSENGER so any witnesses do not exist for developing theories he was an ANGEL.What part of messenger and angel being the exact same word in the Greek do you not understand. Is this fact really that hard to grasp? For…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,01:12)Hi T8, you got the story confused.The messenger of the covenant is Jesus.Malachi 3:1 mentions both, John the Baptist: the messenger that shall prepare the way, for the messenger of the covenant which is Jesus Christ the Lord.Edj.Are you joking with me? If not, then you are the one who is confused.This is exactly…[Read more]

Quote from Wikipedia:Origen excelled in multiple branches of theological scholarship, including textual criticism, biblical interpretation, philosophical theology, preaching, and spirituality. Some of his teachings, however, quickly became controversial. Notably, he frequently referred to his hypothesis of the pre-existence of souls. As in the…[Read more]

Origen was hypothesising by the sound of it.I also have to admit that it is possible, because we are not taught that we our souls definitely did not exist with the Father beforehand.If scripture is not definate on a subject, then it remains open to speculation and hypothesis. And the fact that it is not definite probably means that it is not…[Read more]

Quote from Wikipedia:Origen excelled in multiple branches of theological scholarship, including textual criticism, biblical interpretation, philosophical theology, preaching, and spirituality. Some of his teachings, however, quickly became controversial. Notably, he frequently referred to his hypothesis of the pre-existence of souls. As in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,16:30)No Nick,Men, as a general rule, DON'T pre-exist as gods or angels.  But then, men, as a general rule, aren't sired by God Almighty and a human women.  Men, as a general rule, don't ask to be returned to the glory they had alongside their God before the world began.  Men, as a general rule, don't say, “I ca…[Read more]

To say that you are better than another believer or to call them foolish, deceivers, and the like.Also, judging by what fruits? We have his writings and what others said about him. You can't say for certain what manner of man he was, so I think it is not wise to judge the man harshly.Judge what he has written by all means. We have that record.

Will we not all give an account of our lives.It is not wise to judge one another in this way.For the same measure you judge, so it will be for you.It is better for us to judge teachings rather than servants of God.These servants are not our servants for a start.

Also, those who judge such men as deceivers or unwise or whatever, pass that same standard of judgement to themselves. If you are comfortable with that, then that is your choice to make.