Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2012,09:17)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,13:05)No need to add ANGEL by flawed logic.I don't “add” angel, Nick.  I read it in scripture.  If YOU don't want to consider Jesus as an angel (spirit messenger) of God, then that is YOUR choice.Leave me in peace with MY choice, okay?It's right there in scripture in black a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2012,15:20)Hi MB, God is the son of God? The Word WAS God. It is all about the Spirit.Nick, the Word was not THE God.No definite article here.

Yes you have lost this case Nick.Men and heavenly creatures are both called ans described as angels/messenger/malak (NOTE: same word) in scripture.I have proven this to be the case and now you concur.Thank you. I believe yes we can move on from here.The Hot Seat has done its job, but I am happy to take it further as you seem to want to.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,08:47)Hi T8, Yawn. Yes they are the same word. But Haggai is a man and the angel is an angel.Haggai is a man who wrote the book so unless you come up with an angel called Haggai elsewhere your theory lapses.You have proven nothing.We are not here to play intellectual games.Unless you are focussed on dogma…[Read more]

Not walking away Nick.I am going to read your response now.I don't post as frequently as you do. That is not a crime.

Charity, the Forum has two sections. Believers and Skeptics. This is to stop Skeptics attacking all the subjects that Believers want to discuss. And all can join in the Skeptics Area and be as skeptical as they want. So know one is being barred from posting what they want, except those who abuse others or other like behaviour.We cater for all and…[Read more]

He can post in the Skeptics Category and you can engage him there too.

OK, you have made your stance very clear and this is truly helpful. I only now have to demonstrate one place where a man is called an angel and that will prove your stance is completely wrong.Haggai 1:1313 Then Haggai, the LORD's messenger, gave this message of the LORD to the people: “I am with you,” declares  the LORD.The word messenger is a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2012,16:27)Hi T8,yes and no.Men are confused with angels and angels with men.OK good.So from your answer I decipher 2 points:1) In scripture, men are indeed sometimes called angels, (as I say).2) However, in such cases it is the result of confusion because men are never legitimately called angels. Such instances happen…[Read more]

Cool Nick. I am just going to pick up my son from school and will be back after that hopefully.

My first question to you requires a yes, no, or I don't know answer.Are men ever called “angels” or given the description, “angel” in the bible?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2012,23:36)Hi T8, Now you make threats?? What has happened to this forum when those with power use it against members?Jesus is never called an angel in any bibleJohn is never called an angel in any biblePut away this punitive legalismNick there is no harm in getting to the bottom of a matter.Please go over to the Hot…[Read more]

OK. Thanks for letting us know.Everyone, please pray about this.