Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2012,17:38)T8;I am mystified by your argument which is that those that are called messengers may be humans instead of denizens of the realms of Spirit as it does not lead to proving Jesus has ever been anything other than a human being.We are taught that the World to Come is not subject to beings from the realm of Spirit,…[Read more]

It does make the case because men are also called or described as malak/angels/messengers as are heavenly beings.Edj, if can refute what I have said, then do it. Don't ask me to go scratching around for something to refute myself. Stop being lazy and do your own refuting.  Guys, if Edj is asking you to refute yourself, feel free to copy and paste…[Read more]

Hi david.The new part of the site is this:https://heavennet.net/The old part is this:http://www.heaven.net.nz/And the Forum is still the same.https://heavennet.net/forum/Note: The forum has been using the new domain heavennet.net for a couple of years or so. It just took a while to build the new site that was all.

Skeptics got there own area because they kept gatecrashing topics and changing the subject at hand to “there is no such thing as God”. This led to the intended subjects not being discussed due to interruptions.That is the reason plain and simple. All your ideas about a conspiracy of sort is just plain paranoia, and doesn't change the reason as to…[Read more]

I get the felling that you have a predefined belief you are trying to protect. Anyway look at the following:Haggai 1:3Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,…Haggai 1:13Then spake Haggai the LORD'S messenger in…Is your point about Haggai angeling on par with Haggai propheteering? You could check that out if this…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,14:15)Are our current posts being sent to the new site as we post them here on the old one? It seems the same people and threads are there and here at the same time.The new forum is not available, so you are just seeing the old one linked from both sites.Actually here is the new one. But it is not open for…[Read more]

An all out anything goes, is of no value to anyone.It reminds me of the saying, “when you try to make everyone happy, no one is happy”.All decisions even if they are good will get criticized by someone. And if you refrained from doing something because someone complained, you would do nothing and accomplish nothing in life.

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2012,15:57)Hi T8 and Mike,I'm not satisfied you've proven what you set out to. Let me explain what I mean. If the Greek word or the Hebrew equivalent is used as an adjective when referring to people, then you have not proved your case. Only if it is used as a noun. Looking forward to your further investigation.God blessEd J…[Read more]

Because we have established the fact that men can be called malak.angels/messengers, this does keep open the possibility that the Angel of the LORD is none other than Jesus Christ before he came as a man.Here is some circumstantial evidence.Both are called WonderfulThe Angel of the LORD was always seen as different and special when he appeared in…[Read more]

Regarding the fact that scripture states that men and heavenly beings are referred as malak/angels/messengers, we put Nick on the Hot Seat to get some answers. It appears to be sorted now, although Nick could come back with some additional facts that we could look at. As it stands now, it has been proven that indeed men too can be called…[Read more]

Nick, no one is bullying you. You have for years been challenging us on our teaching that men and heavenly beings are both referred to as being malak/angels/messengers. So I personally felt it was high time to sort this out and get to crux of your stance while explaining mine. All the while, allowing others explain why they agree or disagree with…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 25 2012,20:00)Cant you lock posts in after a short time…the much latter changes seem to concern you…fare enough to that!That would be great, but it is not supported with the forum software. I have just created a new Heaven Net site and it comes with a rich features including a blog, CMS, and tons of plugins. It even comes…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 25 2012,17:35)Hi Mike:Philippians 2:6Quote l 2:6   Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:  “Form of God” = Morphe in Greek:definition:1) the form by which a person or thing strikes the vision2) external appearanceIf this referred to Jesus in some pre-existent state how do you make this d…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2012,13:29)Hi mb, AND DOES THAT MEAN YOU CAN DECIDE WHO IS AN ANGEL AND WHO IS A MAN? Then tell us of Mal 2.7Are priests angels or not?The context will usually determine which Nick. But that is not always the case either.Just like the word “theos”, context is everything.

Quote (charity @ June 25 2012,13:40)Quote (princess @ June 25 2012,10:30)Quote Charity, the Forum has two sections. Believers and Skeptics. This is to stop Skeptics attacking all the subjects that Believers want to discuss. And all can join in the Skeptics Area and be as skeptical as they want. So know one is being barred from posting what they…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ June 25 2012,15:47)Perhaps it was a test to see how strong your faith really is, trials and tribulations of such. You love how believers can attack skeptics then run off and praise god T8. Haven't came acrossed that in the bible, oh wait, wasn't jesus attacked and the jews praised god for it? Oh the tounge has the power to…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ June 25 2012,15:36)Quote (t8 @ June 25 2012,11:13)Q: How do you know when a bunch of Skeptics from Heaven Net are on a plane?A: When the engines stop, you can still hear the whining.T8You always did know how to bring the chaos, you are very good at it, not much for peacekeeping though are you. What does your little book say about…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 25 2012,15:40)if people change there posts because they realised they were wrong..Isn't that a good thing?keep answering an we can get down to the bottom of this!Besides stuffing up the conversation, it wastes the time of all who posted because their post make no sense. And the changes from some were only designed to nullify…[Read more]