Nice pic Stu. Must of shelled out a bit of cash for a photo shoot.

Quote (charity @ June 27 2012,16:40)All forms of tampering with human beings, getting at them, shaping them against their will to your own pattern, all thought control and conditioning is The denial.An the bigger Denial is to not be honest about your true state of defence.Then there is structure. You even see that in nature.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2012,13:17)Hey, we make the same income, t8! Oh wait, that's a SEVEN? I thought it was a ONE!Flippin burgers for $15p/h is still a job. Any job is a good one bro.

Quote (charity @ June 27 2012,14:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2012,11:19)Why can't they see that we don't want to be discussing the pre-existence of Jesus and have every third post be, “What god?  You guys must be talking about your egomaniacal imaginary friend again.”?If I wanted to listen to crap like that all day, I'd visit the Skeptics…[Read more]

Thanks for posting this Devolution.I will have a read.

Thanks Marty. Yet the Book of Enoch is quoted in the bible in a number of places, whereas many of these other books are not.

Quote (942767 @ June 26 2012,03:23)Hi t8: Can you see a spirit?Love in Christ,MartyYes spirits who have spirit bodies can indeed be seen.Angels were often seen and even in Heavenly glory where prophets could only fall on their face at the glorious sight.

OK, so you say that he is a prophet, but NOT a malak/angel/messenger.Yet all English translations in deed say say otherwise.Please provide your evidence for why you disagree with the translators by showing us where they have erred and how it should be translated. Remember, this is the Hot Seat.Scripture references for you are Haggai 1:13, Malachi…[Read more]

Quick question. Earlier in this post I said that Haggai was called the prophet of YHWH and also the angel/messenger of YHWH. You obviously disagree that he is an angel/messenger of YHWH.So my question is, “do you also disagree that he is also a prophet?”. Quote Haggai 1:3Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,…Haggai…[Read more]

I think that they are called angels and the scriptures I gave certainly say that in the English translations.However, even if it turns out in Hebrew that humans are only described as angels, then so too are heavenly ones because the language structure is likely the same for both somewhere if we look at all examples.My point was never to say that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2012,01:04)It's your job to prove your case not me and so far you have not done that.Did prove it.If that proof is not enough for you, then refute the proof.Don't ask others to do what you should do.Usually when you refute it requires an action from the refuter.Thought that would be obvious.Imagine if I wanted you to prove…[Read more]

Nick's turn.Be fair.

Look at my first question in this discussion Edj.Quote My first question to you requires a yes, no, or I don't know answer.Are men ever called “angels” or given the description, “angel” in the bible? Nick was unable to refute that men are not called or described as malak/angels/messengers.So Edj, if you have a refutation let's hear it.Otherwise do…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 26 2012,21:38)I would like to pre-answer any hot seat questions with the answer:”I don't know,” thus legally dissolving myself of any neglectful un-answering of hot seat questions.That is fine.The Hot Seat is designed to stop people avoiding someones questions because they are incriminating to their doctrine or view point. “I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 26 2012,21:34)Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,18:27)Quote (t8 @ June 06 2012,17:35)I want to let everyone know that if a person avoids a question, then is taken to the Hot Seat and continues to avoid a question, then that person will be given a penalty square. This is to curb the practice of avoidance which will further the mission…[Read more]

They are called Moderators. They handle complaints from one party that are directed at another party.

Oh yeah. Terrible. That is 5 years in the slammer if I remember rightly.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,15:54)Amen t8! And I don't see how Nick concluded this is a “home of deception” if the scriptural truth of the matter prevailed in the end.Well said Mike. That is a good point.

Quote (Mary @ June 26 2012,04:16)No it's all clear now! He must have been a skeptic that stood up at the wrong time, just when a plane full of believers: flying by faith on an empty fuel tank were about to crash land!  Smile!Hi Charity.In the last day shall come mockers….having not the Spirit…..

Quote (charity @ June 22 2012,00:18)lol, believe none of what you hear, an half of what you see….nice carving statueOK, I won't believe what you wrote then.