Quote (942767 @ June 26 2012,03:23)Hi t8: Can you see a spirit?Love in Christ,MartyYes spirits who have spirit bodies can indeed be seen.Angels were often seen and even in Heavenly glory where prophets could only fall on their face at the glorious sight.

OK, so you say that he is a prophet, but NOT a malak/angel/messenger.Yet all English translations in deed say say otherwise.Please provide your evidence for why you disagree with the translators by showing us where they have erred and how it should be translated. Remember, this is the Hot Seat.Scripture references for you are Haggai 1:13, Malachi…[Read more]

Quick question. Earlier in this post I said that Haggai was called the prophet of YHWH and also the angel/messenger of YHWH. You obviously disagree that he is an angel/messenger of YHWH.So my question is, “do you also disagree that he is also a prophet?”. Quote Haggai 1:3Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,…Haggai…[Read more]

I think that they are called angels and the scriptures I gave certainly say that in the English translations.However, even if it turns out in Hebrew that humans are only described as angels, then so too are heavenly ones because the language structure is likely the same for both somewhere if we look at all examples.My point was never to say that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 27 2012,01:04)It's your job to prove your case not me and so far you have not done that.Did prove it.If that proof is not enough for you, then refute the proof.Don't ask others to do what you should do.Usually when you refute it requires an action from the refuter.Thought that would be obvious.Imagine if I wanted you to prove…[Read more]

Nick's turn.Be fair.

Look at my first question in this discussion Edj.Quote My first question to you requires a yes, no, or I don't know answer.Are men ever called “angels” or given the description, “angel” in the bible? Nick was unable to refute that men are not called or described as malak/angels/messengers.So Edj, if you have a refutation let's hear it.Otherwise do…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 26 2012,21:38)I would like to pre-answer any hot seat questions with the answer:”I don't know,” thus legally dissolving myself of any neglectful un-answering of hot seat questions.That is fine.The Hot Seat is designed to stop people avoiding someones questions because they are incriminating to their doctrine or view point. “I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 26 2012,21:34)Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,18:27)Quote (t8 @ June 06 2012,17:35)I want to let everyone know that if a person avoids a question, then is taken to the Hot Seat and continues to avoid a question, then that person will be given a penalty square. This is to curb the practice of avoidance which will further the mission…[Read more]

They are called Moderators. They handle complaints from one party that are directed at another party.

Oh yeah. Terrible. That is 5 years in the slammer if I remember rightly.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,15:54)Amen t8! And I don't see how Nick concluded this is a “home of deception” if the scriptural truth of the matter prevailed in the end.Well said Mike. That is a good point.

Quote (Mary @ June 26 2012,04:16)No it's all clear now! He must have been a skeptic that stood up at the wrong time, just when a plane full of believers: flying by faith on an empty fuel tank were about to crash land!  Smile!Hi Charity.In the last day shall come mockers….having not the Spirit…..

Quote (charity @ June 22 2012,00:18)lol, believe none of what you hear, an half of what you see….nice carving statueOK, I won't believe what you wrote then.

Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2012,17:38)T8;I am mystified by your argument which is that those that are called messengers may be humans instead of denizens of the realms of Spirit as it does not lead to proving Jesus has ever been anything other than a human being.We are taught that the World to Come is not subject to beings from the realm of Spirit,…[Read more]

It does make the case because men are also called or described as malak/angels/messengers as are heavenly beings.Edj, if can refute what I have said, then do it. Don't ask me to go scratching around for something to refute myself. Stop being lazy and do your own refuting.  Guys, if Edj is asking you to refute yourself, feel free to copy and paste…[Read more]

Hi david.The new part of the site is this:https://heavennet.net/The old part is this:http://www.heaven.net.nz/And the Forum is still the same.https://heavennet.net/forum/Note: The forum has been using the new domain heavennet.net for a couple of years or so. It just took a while to build the new site that was all.

Skeptics got there own area because they kept gatecrashing topics and changing the subject at hand to “there is no such thing as God”. This led to the intended subjects not being discussed due to interruptions.That is the reason plain and simple. All your ideas about a conspiracy of sort is just plain paranoia, and doesn't change the reason as to…[Read more]

I get the felling that you have a predefined belief you are trying to protect. Anyway look at the following:Haggai 1:3Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,…Haggai 1:13Then spake Haggai the LORD'S messenger in…Is your point about Haggai angeling on par with Haggai propheteering? You could check that out if this…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,14:15)Are our current posts being sent to the new site as we post them here on the old one? It seems the same people and threads are there and here at the same time.The new forum is not available, so you are just seeing the old one linked from both sites.Actually here is the new one. But it is not open for…[Read more]