Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,12:30)Hi t8:You say:Quote Interestingly enough Jesus has been seen while in this glory, and that glory was what he had before the world began.Here's the thing Marty.I only quoted you scripture and you took it to mean that he existed as a sentient person. I made no such reference in this post. So it was you who…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,20:35)2) But, because the English translators translated it to messenger instead of Angel – it does not.OK, so this is the evidence for you view.I will take a look at this.Thanks for clarifying that.

Righteous skeptics aren't too bad.

Ed J, I am not following you here.Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,16:55)Hi T8,It lends support to your belief.But the fact that the English translators translated it the way they did, supports my belief.This is as clear as mud.Let's start again.”It lends support that men are called malak/angels/messengers” should be:”It does support that men are called…[Read more]

There really isn't that much to understand here.It is obvious that the word malak/angel/messenger is applied to heavenly messengers and men too.It is also obvious that the word angel at times refers exclusively to heavenly beings in particular.That is why context is important. There is no one rule here.Similarly, the words theos & elohim are…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 27 2012,13:53)Hi t8:I asked “Can you see a spirit”, not if you can see “a spirit that has a body”, and even so, you can see the body, but you cannot see the spirit except through the life that is lived through the body.And can you show me by the scriptures that Jesus had a body prior to being born into this world?Love in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,10:53)Hi T8,Both the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak and the Greek word ἄγγελος aggelos are nouns.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHow does that support your view then. It is saying the opposite of what you are trying to prove is it…

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,10:45)Hi T8,You seem to be looking at this backwards,the English translation is inductive of my point.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou have not answered the question because the term, “the LORD's messenger” in English is not an adjective. It is no different to the address of heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,20:08)No need to imagine, David…οι άνθρωποι δεν ονομάζεται καλούνται Άγγελοι? και γνωρίζετε ότι.Τ8 έχει δεν αποδείχθηκε ότι καλούνται Άγγελοι είτε.Ed that means nothing till you show us your working.When a student writes a mathematical sum and answer down, he either does that because he understands it or he knows how…[Read more]

Ed J. Let me guess. You googled “angel adjective”, “messenger of the lord adjective”, or some other similar search term, found this page and use that to justify your statement.Sorry but that is no smoking gun.I could google “haggai the angel of the lord” and get a ton of pages that talk about him being an actual angel of the lord.You need to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,15:04)Hi Mike,1. Spirit being.               …NOUN2. YHVH's message.       …ADJECTIVEDo you have more definitions to add?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou have yet to prove the adjective use of malak in those verses I gave you. English translations say YHWH's messenger or the messenger…[Read more]

What if I told you that I was the humblest man that ever lived.

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,15:00)Not add, but subtract – in more term – I will define them correctly…מַלְאָך malak: ambassador, angel, king, messengerἄγγελος aggelos: angel, messenger.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGreat you concur again. Horay! Although not horay considering it took multiple pages to establish…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,01:37)Quote (t8 @ June 27 2012,09:39)OK, so you say that he is a prophet, but NOT a malak/angel/messenger.Yet all English translations in deed say say otherwise.Please provide your evidence for why you disagree with the translators by showing us where they have erred and how it should be translated. Remember, this is the…[Read more]

I like Facebook.It serves a different purpose, but a good purpose for me.

Correct. What benefit is there if you hate reading something.I'm not making money out if it and it is just making you miserable.Hey I know. Go to Google and type in “Cool forum made specially for charity where Skeptics rule”.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2012,13:17)(Ed, that'll be $1.37, because it didn't take too much time. )You gonna put me out of business charging that price.

Quote (charity @ June 27 2012,23:22)Quote (t8 @ June 27 2012,17:50)Quote (charity @ June 27 2012,16:40)All forms of tampering with human beings, getting at them, shaping them against their will to your own pattern, all thought control and conditioning is The denial.An the bigger Denial is to not be honest about your true state of defence.Then…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 27 2012,21:36)Anyway, I still have no clue what the “new site” is.  Is it a completely different site?  Or, is this site being improved?The same site improved. And new content will go there, and I have scraped some of the old content from the old one.The main difference is the old one was completely hand coded in HTML, CSS, a…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 27 2012,21:07)I didn't enjoy reading all that crap as well!Why read it then.