I totally know where you are coming from david and agree with what you are saying. Nick and EdJ make a doctrine or teaching out of the way translators used 2 different words to translate the same word. Whereas, their teaching should not be different because a fallible translator decides for himself when one is called messenger and one is called…[Read more]

188 or so scriptures. See Terricas post.Your the one refuting them, so you are the one who needs to show evidence. Our evidence is the scriptures that Terrica posted, what is your evidence.Please provide it.

Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:45)Fair enough. Then do mean that he pre-existed as a sentient person or not?Love in Christ,MartyI will let Jesus answer your question. And I hope the reaction isn't the same as when the Pharisees heard this.”Before Abraham, I am”.

OK, here is the conclusion that some would have us believe.EDJ: Angels/Malak are heavenly beings but when it is used to describe a man, the word is kinda nullified by the fact that it was used to describe a man.EDJ: The sword of the Spirit is the same thing as the spirit, meaning that the sword is kinda meaningless.Gene: Free will doesn't exist,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,05:25)Angels are spirit beings.Except when they are men like prophets.You deny this, but it is written in plain English for all to see. Ed J you need to tell us why the translators got it wrong when they applied malak about 188 time for men.Whereas we just believe it is written.EdJ you have shown no proof that these…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,13:05)Hi David,Do you believe English is a furtherance of the revelation of God?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEnglish is a language EdJ.

Good one T.I was going to suggest that someone list out the scriptures.

Sorry it is a conflict because men have been called angels by John.And you say that men cannot be called angels.Yet we have tried to prove to you that angel/messenger/malak can be applied to both.How many more ways do we need to prove this obvious fact before you decide to actually embrace reality?Like I said before, your defense for your precious…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,02:22)Quote (t8 @ June 30 2012,23:13)Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:33)Hi T8, my view is: Men are NOT called Angels (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.While Angelic beings are being described by the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak.                    …this is not that complicated.EdJ. Read this scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:33)Hi T8, my view is: Men are NOT called Angels (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.While Angelic beings are being described by the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak.                  …this is not that complicated.EdJ. Read this scripture and tell me if the following point is correct.John 20:11-1311 But Mary…[Read more]

Edj. I will spell it out for you.Your confidence does not match your evidence.Be real. Being honest and humble is better than exalting your view higher than it should be. Better to say, “I think” than what you have said above.I mean if you are wrong and you sway people because of your false confidence, then you are doing exactly what Evolutionists…[Read more]

Ed J, read the earlier posts from you.You came in like a knight ready to defend or help Nick.You did all these flash moves with your sword, but when we challenged you, your sword nearly fell out of your hand.Here is a quote to look at:Quote Are multiple types of beings called angels…          No. Quote To suggest they are, is to play games with…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2012,01:01)Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,09:45)To all;You all know it is written that the the World to come is not subject to Messengers.  If you state Messengers means both man and angelic beings then you state it is not subject to Jesus Christ.  You know that is not true. That leaves you with two possibilities which are:1}  …[Read more]

Ed J. I am going to write different posts over a period of time, and will be likely copying and pasting from other sites to save time.I copied the following from http://www.thebiblewayonline.com/Studies/A-%20Angels%20General.htmI cannot verify if the quote below is absolutely correct, but I read a few other sites that said pretty much the same…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 30 2012,18:25)Ed, thanks for proving how silly that sounded in Greek.My Greek is more than limited, so I immediately looked up this word:Άγγελοι:  “angel” or “messenger/envoy.”So, in Greek, you said that “humans are not called Does the word “messenger(s)” appear in your Bible ed?  Does it ever apply to “humans”?  If so, case cl…[Read more]

Don't know david.

Also interesting to note that angels who appeared before men often looked like men. We are not taught anywhere how this is accomplished, but it appears that these spirits can partake of a body like ours or at least change in appearance to look like men.Even the Sodomites thought they were men.

Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,12:30)The word “morphe” indicates and outward appearance, and the scripture in Philippians states:Quote 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and…[Read more]